How does joe black come back in the end?
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dagame87 — 13 years ago(April 22, 2012 12:34 PM)
I'm a huge fan of this movie, by I just dot understand how a man who is killed in a car crash comes back to life I understand how death takes his body but how can someone who died come back to life? Did I miss something in the movie?
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krazyj2472002 — 13 years ago(May 04, 2012 06:41 AM)
I also love the movie but ask myself the same question. There is just no way to say "and they lived happily ever after." Starting with the simple event of rejoining the party together, it would be insanity. Not to mention poor Bill Parrish is laying dead on the other side of the bridgeand she is just walking back to the party?! Putting that aside, the time frame is whata few daysa week? It might have helped if they mention a news story about the local morgue investigating a missing body. Did 'Death' jump into his body and walk out of the morgue? Regardless, I find this movie so heart warming and life affirming. My dad passed away in his sleep 30 years ago. No chance to say goodbye. I cry everytime she has that final dance with her dad. Plot holes be damned, it is still one of my favorite movies.
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bron-tay — 13 years ago(May 12, 2012 12:18 AM)
It's worse than that.
First she's kind of intrigued by Coffee Shop Guy. She thinks he's this "Joe Black" and goes whole hog and sleeps with him. It's love!
Then Joe Black goes away and the real Coffee Shop Guy comes back.
Him: Hi! Remember me, the guy from a few days ago?
Her: Why yes, yes I do. Forget about that Joe Black guy I had sex with. Let's go party.Think cynical thoughts. -
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dolores_medina — 13 years ago(June 28, 2012 10:01 PM)
He doesn't. That is Death pretending to be Joe from the coffeeshop.
There are a few lines at the end that give this away. Remember he just revealed to Susan he is Death, she reacted to it in shock and fear. He tells her that " you will always have the one you met at the coffeeshop."
then after he returns apparently confused. he says " something you said stayed with me. you said.. you liked me." She looks Into his eyes, and says " no I said i like you so much." This is not a throw away line. This is Susan telling the audience. " This is Death pretending to be Joe the coffeeshoip guy he cannot remember a line he claims stayed with him, cause it was not him. " and this is also Susan letting Death know she rather be with HIM, NOT coffeeshop dude.
Watch it within the context of " That guy coming over the hillis Death pretending to be coffeeshop dude, and it makes perfect sense.
The ending is not lame as many thinkbut brilliant. Perfect. But only once you accept that the guy that comes back, is Deathpretending. -
marka-16 — 13 years ago(July 23, 2012 02:11 PM)
it's not Death
but is the guy from the shop
Death has given her back the man she met in the coffee shop. he was never ment to die in that road accident, but was "killed" because death needed a body. Bill parish makes a point of this by saying what about the poor son of a bitch whoes body you took.
Death is not pretending to be the man at the end. he cries at the firework display and when bill comes to him for the final walk, because Death doesn't want to leave this thing called life. Bill points this out by saying "it's hard to let go"
but Death does, he takes Bill with him like he was going to do maybe a few days later. and returns the body of the man from the coffee shop. maybe this was always going to happen and he just borrowed him, but sending him back to Susan was a gift, so she can find again the man she fell for in the coffee shop.
i think thats a more realistic and happier view of Death and his sacafice for the love of Susan. very noble of him ! -
selkn-asrai — 13 years ago(August 05, 2012 09:28 PM)
"It might have helped if they mention a news story about the local morgue investigating a missing body. Did 'Death' jump into his body and walk out of the morgue?"
I was always under the impression that while Coffee Shop obviously died, Death immediately overtook his body, so that to any observers, it might appear he was temporarily knocked out or groggy but miraculously unharmed.
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Star_AD — 13 years ago(March 16, 2013 12:06 PM)
Also disagree, it is NOT death, the simple dialog in the final scenes and the scenes preceding tell the audience that the coffee shop guy was given a second chance.
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dancintoes01 — 12 years ago(September 06, 2013 02:14 PM)
Just watched this for the upteenth time and I can def see where u get that he is death and not coffee shop guy. When she says " I wish u cld hv known my father.". Well, if it was coffee shop guy, wouldn't he be kind of shocked later on by her saying this when later that night they find her dads body/ him missing, presumably. Like, how cld she explain her telling him that as though she knew he wld never be able to meet him? Sorry if that is confusing, I really don't know how to explain what I mean lol.. but that would be a strange thing to tell him considering the circumstances. Plus she does look disappointed when they talk abt the coffee shop.. and when she asks what they will do now and he responds that they will figure it out.. I don't know, I can see where it could be death. I never thought it was anyone but coffee guy until I read the post abt its death.. hmm
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actionmanozzie — 12 years ago(September 23, 2013 05:08 PM)
Wow, you really have some imagination there.
Because you're 100% wrong.
You can even see the moment when Death leaves his body and he becomes the other guy again.
Death walked back over the bridge to look at her one last time, then there is literally a moment where Death allows him to re-enter his body.
Death could NOT spend the rest of his life in that body as he has to return to his job.
The POINT was that Death learned that love meant letting go and giving a person what they truly wanted.
You can ALSO see "HER" character and what this realization is doing to her. She REALIZES that it's someone else and is slowly going through the understanding that when she looks into his eyes, it's no longer Death.
This is blatantly obvious.
The SCREENPLAY even states this. It distinctly states that he comes back as the young man, NOT Joe.
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justonian98 — 13 years ago(February 11, 2013 08:45 PM)
The description of this film is Fantasy, Romance. Films are to entertain for the most part. The loose ends of where is Bill's body, how can someone come back to life, wouldn't CSG's body be too mangled to be occupied by death don't need to be addressed because the film is described as fantasy.I enjoyed this film after seeing it for the first time about a month ago. I disagree that Joe Black comes back to trick Susan. It is clear that it is CSG who comes back over the bridge when Susan says, "you're here" and CSG says, "you bet". If you recall CSG said "you bet" when he was talking to his sister on the phone in the coffee shop. To answer the question about how long was Death in human form, I would say 5 days total. They all had dinner together 3 nights in a row and when Allison has a melt down about the cakes, she says "I am trying to throw the party of the century for my father in 2 days(3+2=5) That's it!
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hw5050 — 10 years ago(May 10, 2015 06:02 PM)
I don't think it ever actually says point blank that Joe Coffeeshop actually died.
Yes i understand it was a terrible accident.
Only plausible explanation would be that he was severely injured and his body stayed in a coma in the hospital until the time Joe Death was finished using his body -
Guj — 10 years ago(January 31, 2016 08:37 PM)
I like to think of it as Coffeeshop Guy DID die from the car accident but in hospital. He was in the operating theatre breathing, the EKG thing started that loong beep meaning Coffeeshop Guy was dead, doctors did CPR to resuscitate him and poof, he comes back to life but is now as Death.
i like to think of it as that scene from Ghost when Sam Wheat visits the hospital, meets another ghost dude and they watch another man being operated on but as that man's dying you see his spirit/soul/whatever lift out of his body. i think its at that point where death said "ok I need a body, i'll be this guy". and they defo wouldn't put everyone who had CPR on the news or in papers as it happens alllllll the time.
I LOVE the idea of it being death who stays with her at the end, i never even thought of that. but ultimately i think after death's finished with the brad pitt 'host' body, he returns Coffeeshop Guys spirit/soul/whatever back into brad pitt to stay with Susan, mainly from the line that Death said "You'll always have what you found in the coffee shop". I've always though death meant this emotionally or reminiscently as a fond memory, but now i think death means it literally as in you will see that specific Coffeeshop Guy again soon.
So if anything for all those people saying how can you just return Coffeeshop Guy after 5 days and shouldn't he be in a morgue if hes dead or whatever, Coffeeshop Guy has been missing for 5 days, not dead.
Ie imagine Coffeeshop Guys's sister calls the police and says "I havent seen my brother (Coffeeshop Guy) for 2 days" the police will put out a missing persons APB (or whatever the amercans call it) out to look for him, not just say 'well its been two days hes obviously dead and vanished from existance'.
You die in the end!