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    JustAnswerTheQuestion! — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 03:32 PM)

    Think the Trump administration was on the right side on this one?

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      Lilith — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 03:37 PM)

      No.
      "Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith

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        JustAnswerTheQuestion! — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 04:31 PM)

        Do you believe his road to the Whitehouse has hit a ruff patch?

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          Lilith — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 05:57 PM)

          WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that religious schools are exempt from most employment discrimination claims, doubling down on the autonomy religious employers enjoy to choose their leaders.
          The 7-2 ruling came in two disputes between Catholic schools in California and the teachers they fired. Under a so-called ministerial exception, religious employers are given autonomy over their workers that is not available to other employers.
          Associate Justice Samuel Alito wrote the court's majority opinion. Associate Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg dissented.
          Sotomayor argued that the school's opinion regarding the teachers' religious role should not be the final word.
          "That simplistic approach has no basis in law and strips thousands of school teachers of their legal protections," she said.
          Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the high court's unanimous opinion in 2012 that allowed religious organizations to choose their leaders regardless of federal job discrimination laws. The latest question was whether the fired teachers performed enough religious duties to be considered "ministers" exempt from those laws.
          "Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith

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            Cerridwen — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 06:09 PM)

            I wonder how the fundies will feel when they finally figure out that the founding fathers they worship wanted a separation between church and state.
            Hark! Harold the angel sings.

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              Soul_Venom — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 09:19 PM)

              I wonder how the libtards will feel once they finally figure out that the idea behind Separation of Church and State was only intended to keep the state out of church affairs and
              NOT
              the other way round.
              Trump is still your President. Charlie Kirk still Wins!

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                Cerridwen — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 09:28 PM)

                They wanted protection against governmental control of religion, as it had been an ongoing issue in Britain. In what way is implementing such religious mandates as "our employees must adhere to our conservative Christian beliefs" not controlling the way others practise their own religions? Perhaps the employees are NOT Christian. They should therefore not be made to carry out Christian mandates.
                Hark! Harold the angel sings.

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                  Soul_Venom — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 09:32 PM)

                  Government regulation is involuntary. Employment is a voluntary agreement. If one does not like how an employer does things they are free to leave.
                  Trump is still your President. Charlie Kirk still Wins!

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                    Cerridwen — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 09:37 PM)

                    It's not so easy as that in our current climate of immense financial insecurity. The world as we know it has collapsed. Many are lucky simply to be employed, and are well aware that job hopping is a dangerous endeavour.
                    Either religious imposition is permissible, in which case the foundations of our country were a lie, or there is present a staggering hypocrisy regarding the battle between fundamentalist Christians and female reproductive rights.
                    Hark! Harold the angel sings.

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                      Soul_Venom — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 09:47 PM)

                      Actually I think it is mainly just the catholics with this particular hangup which mean a relatively small amount of people are actually affected.
                      Trump is still your President. Charlie Kirk still Wins!

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                        Cerridwen — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 09:59 PM)

                        Even if the number of affected women is small, this requires careful scrutiny. We have to be careful in determining the power a company ought to be granted.
                        Apologies for the short response, but I am on my way to a birthday gathering. I just wanted to thank you for the civil discussion, though it was only a few exchanges long.
                        Hark! Harold the angel sings.

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                          MovieManCin2 — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 09:42 PM)

                          Well said, SV! But once again, most Leftards are
                          way too stupid
                          to understand that.
                          Some do understand it, but they don't give a damn about
                          Freedom of Religion
                          . That's because to them, religion is an
                          enemy
                          , because they want
                          the State
                          to be the religion!
                          PS Full disclosure: I'm an Agnostic.
                          MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                            MovieManCin2 — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 09:41 PM)

                            Oh come on, SV! The Leftards are
                            way too stupid
                            to realize that!
                            MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                              rouge — 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 10:07 PM)

                              You two should get a room.
                              come here

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