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Vlad. β 5 years ago(July 07, 2020 06:03 PM)
Looting businesses and hurting people is not protesting. Those are crimes. There is a difference. BLM protests, loots, and has hurt people. Those are facts.
People have been killed during BLM protests, including black people. People have been socially crucified and fired from employment for voicing any semblance of criticism of BLM. These are not good things, Erica.
So you think we should defund the police. How exactly will we be instituting change in how the police are trained if you cut their budget? Why not demilitarize the police, keep funding flat and reallocate the capital toward training them in conflict resolution skills? That way you keep the police while killing off the root cause of police violence which is their inability to peacefully deescalate situations with potentially violent individuals like George Floyd, who was a felon.
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β 5 years ago(July 07, 2020 06:06 PM)BLM is not looting or attacking businesses. Looters are doing that. You are conflating two groups that donβt overlap.
You canβt just assume people attacking businesses are BLM protesters especially since there are clearly agent provocateurs(Some police) doing the damage.
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Vlad. β 5 years ago(July 07, 2020 06:16 PM)
So why do blm supporters get so upset when normal people express disapproval of looting and rioting? Why is blm conflating riots with its own so called peaceful movement?
Perhaps because the looting occurs during blm protests. Maybe that is why, and maybe itβs not blm that is to blame. In any case, blm is capitalizing on it and itβs very hard if not impossible to differentiate the two. Theyβre now one in the same, unless you can prove me wrong (i am hoping you can)
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β 5 years ago(July 07, 2020 06:20 PM)They get upset because you think OTHER people who are NOT THEM looting businesses someone discredits the equality and justice they are fighting for.
They get rightfully upset when conservatives Care more about replaceable property than irreplaceable Black lives. A building can be rebuilt. Black people killed by the State cannot be brought back.
If you donβt get that youβre a numbskull (and you are) not worth educating In the first place.
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Vlad. β 5 years ago(July 07, 2020 06:25 PM)
Why should I believe you? I see CNN report on BLM protests in Seattle followed by riots, looting, and a rebel autonomous zone that seemingly emerged out of said protests. This is from CNN, honey, how am I to interpret these events if not directly related.
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β 5 years ago(July 07, 2020 06:32 PM)Hitchenβs Razor. If you are claiming these two groups are the same than you provide the proof.
Itβs not my responsibility to disprove an assumption youβre choosing to make. Opportunists looking to steal usually take advantage of chaos to do so. And it serves anti-protesters interests to make the protesters look bad by committing crimes during their protests.
White people have been caught on camera doing it many times.
"You had me at Elk Tartare"
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Vlad. β 5 years ago(July 07, 2020 07:09 PM)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/07/black-lives-matter-protests-taking-place-in-portland-salem-on-the-fourth-of-july.html%3FoutputType=amp
Iβll have to get some more examples when Iβm not working
I think blm has a lot of good people in it. Lots of them are peaceful. Lots of them, however, are not. So to say blm is or is not peaceful is a loaded statement because itβs a somewhat amorphous entity. I will concede there are external elements injecting themselves within BLM, with the intent to spark violence. I will stand by the fact that the two are causually linked; were there no BLM protests there would not have been (blm or not-blm) riots.
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DrakeStraw β 5 years ago(July 07, 2020 07:29 PM)
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Vlad. β 5 years ago(July 07, 2020 07:33 PM)
DrakeStraw said...
Avatar Lives Matter β¦
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Not a word. Did you mean
casually
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Someone hacked my account. It was the latter of those two, then Nimda edited my post and changed it.
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β 5 years ago(July 07, 2020 10:45 PM)How are you assuming this riot was Started by protesters and not police or outside provocateurs? You do not know. You were not there.
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SpringheelJack1837 β 5 years ago(July 07, 2020 11:35 PM)
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How are you assuming this riot was Started by protesters and not police or outside provocateurs? You do not know. You were not there.
Going by what you said a little higher in the page, itβs up to you to provide proof that theyβre not.
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Vlad. β 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 01:11 AM)
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How are you assuming this riot was Started by protesters and not police or outside provocateurs? You do not know. You were not there.
The riot would not have occurred if not for the initial protest.
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β 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 03:02 AM)Vlad. said...
The riot would not have occurred if not for the initial protest.
This is your opinion. It is not remotely a fact.
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Vlad. β 5 years ago(July 08, 2020 10:18 AM)
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This is your opinion. It is not remotely a fact.
So you think there would be riots and looting if BLM was not hosting a bunch of protests? Why?
From what I understand, the riots are done to agitate whites people. To make them uncomfortable, a tactic designed to spur the change BLM is fighting for. Thatβs from BLM supporters so I do wonder why you, some white girl from New England (white man?) is qualified to say otherwise.
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