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    zabbree — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 08:16 PM)

    The ACA did not have to force rate increases. They should never have used the for-profit insurance model. They should have created a single-payer system, but the insurance lobby is too powerful. The ACA was the result of compromises to appease the insurance companies, and it backfired on everyone.
    If you look at any EOB, you can see that insurance companies are lowballing doctors and facilities, while keeping them from offering the same negotiated rates to people that do not have insurance. Service payments are reduced 40-50% before the insurance companies pay a dime, and then, they may still not have to pay the reduced portion due to deductibles. So, we are basically paying insurance payments for negotiated rates with the providers. Why not allow the providers to negotiate directly with the patient? That's what they used to be able to do.
    Once I became self-employed, I was unable to get more than catastrophic care insurance better known as hospitalization only. It did not cover doctor visits, my prescriptions were only covered up to 40% co-insurance, and I still had a 5-10k deductible for many years all because my daughter had asthma. The ACA allowed me to at least get decent insurance as a self-employed person. Doctor visits are covered, and I have a co-pay for prescriptions. I'm still paying around 1k a month, but I have more benefits. The ACA isn't perfect, but it was definitely better than what we had and not just for lower-income people.

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      pvd295 — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 02:56 PM)

      And how dare those lazy no-good doctors expect to earn enough to pay off their med-school debts!!
      Wow - you know nothing at all about the medical profession. The money is NOT going to doctors to pay off their school debts, which is why so many doctors are leaving the profession, or taking early retirement. They are working very hard, yet being second-guessed by insurance companies who think they know how to treat the patients and what cause of action to take just so the health insurance company can save some money, and get paid very little for their knowledge and workjust so the CEOS of health insurance can buy another private jet for their wives.
      CEO's of dozens of different types of corporations make similar salaries. Yet no one ever seems to care how much the CEO of Apple Corporation makes.
      Most idiotic statement for 2017! You want to compare a CEO who's in charge of manufacturing technology to that of the CEO who is in charge of life or death situations? Are you insane?
      The CEO of Apple is not making the judgement call if someone 'qualifies' for a heart transplant, based on hoe much money the company is profiting for the quarter.
      "Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16

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        Dagwoodie — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 04:08 PM)

        You don't seem to be able to grasp anything that I was actually posting. I realize that your binge drinking has likely escalated since November, but please try to show some semblance of comprehension or coherency in responding.

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          A_l_a_c_h_u_a_1 — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 04:12 PM)

          You don't seem to be able to grasp anything that I was actually posting. I realize that your binge drinking has likely escalated since November, but please try to show some semblance of comprehension or coherency in responding.

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            !!!deleted!!! (28128673) — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 12:24 PM)

            zabbree, that's so true, and it happens over and over. A person gets cancer and loses their lifetime savings within months. It's unconscionable that the CEOs become obscenely wealthy while dying people are scrambling to die with grace and dignity.

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              mrbean-87852 — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 12:57 PM)

              I totally agree. Health care should not be a luxury item. Get in the First World, America. Public health care is not government interference. It is a basic human right.

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                  mrbean-87852 — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 03:41 PM)

                  Everyone pays. It should come out of income and property taxes like every other civilized country.

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                    pjpurple-1 — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 04:04 PM)

                    Seriously? Out of MY property tax? My property tax has gone up almost every year for a decade in this little podunk town that I live in. Services have NOT gone up. The school teachers went on strike last year for more money and the kids here are NO smarter. Now I am supposed to pay for health care out of my property tax?
                    We have a large segment of the population here on SNAP and getting the free health card. They can walk into any doctor's office and get free stuff way faster than I can! Maybe they should think about their "health" before they have a bunch of out of wedlock babies, expecting someone who is paying property tax to SUPPORT them. You are out of your ever lovin leftard mind! No offense, just calling it as I see it.
                    Facts are not liberals strong suit. Rhetoric is. Thomas Sowell

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                      mrbean-87852 — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 07:47 PM)

                      Wow. You're calling me a leftard. Tmonty usually calls me a right wing wingnut.

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                        zabbree — 9 years ago(January 08, 2017 01:20 AM)

                        I thought it was pretty funny to see someone call you a leftard. Some people can't see past what they feel their political ideology means. This is what's wrong with this country. People assume every idea is partisan. Affordable Healthcare should not be a Democratic vs Republican thing.

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                          A_l_a_c_h_u_a_1 — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 04:01 PM)

                          the intelligent people that prepare for the future will be wealthy. The individuals that expect hand outs will be left poor again,
                          I so agree! To an extent - I do agree that people should be SELF RELIANT and RESPONSIBLE and should plan and take care of themselves. There are, however, those exceptions who, for what ever reason - physically or mentally - cannot take of themselves, and we should all help them. Other than that - EVERYONE should PLAN and PREPARE for their own future, and should NOT expect handouts.
                          And I totally agree - why should I have to pay for someone else's health care? Apart from those exceptions who cannot fend for themselves - why should I pay for everyone else? I plan and save and work hard to take care of myself. Why should someone else - who is able bodied and able minded - benefit from that?

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