Confederate statues are being pulled down or removed in Virginia
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(June 07, 2020 06:06 PM)
Did you not say recently that you were gonna vote for Trump? Did you not say you prefer runty little white guys like PE and Orson? We need a strong black woman like Chickaboom to weigh in here.
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The Real Donna — 5 years ago(June 07, 2020 06:15 PM)
how the hell do you judge an entire region of the USA without ever been through the region or lived in a southern state?
Okay let me show you. Ive never been to California. Not even to visit it. But i've known a few Californians or people who've lived in the state of California, and the impression I received based upon my interactions with Californians and their influence on The USA, is that California is racist. Their racism is different from the racism I've experienced in the south but it is still racism and still toxic imo.
Therefore, is it fair for me to state that I should never visit California, just as you've just stated that you'll never visit any state in the southern USA region? -
Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(June 07, 2020 06:21 PM)
I just have no burning desire to visit the South. The accents would drive me crazy.
But I support their pride in their region and think removing Lee's statue is ridiculous. In 20 years when this current trend is over they'll just put Lee's statue back up again. They're not demolishing it. It's going in storage.
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The Real Donna — 5 years ago(June 07, 2020 06:25 PM)
Okay wait..you have no desire to see any of the landmarks from the southern region of the USA. Lol…so you've traveled to other countries but you would never travel to any southern state within the USA because of the various accents?
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(June 07, 2020 06:27 PM)
There are too many places to go and too little time. Maybe one day I'll meet a hot Cuban and go to Florida. But as of now, I have no plans.
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Corwin — 5 years ago(June 07, 2020 06:06 PM)
Washington helped found a country, and it was the work of decades. Despite any failings and wooden teeth.
Lee was the unsuccessful military leader of a failed 4-year long rebellion.
How are the two in the same league? And why would Lee deserve a statue? -
Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(June 07, 2020 06:14 PM)
I didn't say Lee's in the same league. Again, I'm not a Southerner. I don't relate to them at all. But Lee was important to Virginians enough to have a statue erected. A quick google of his history shows Lee was an important historical figure. And there are much less important figures who have statues allover the country.
What is the point of removing his statue now? Because he supported slavery? So did Washington, Jefferson, Adams and scores of others.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(June 07, 2020 06:23 PM)
Pffffft. I can name every president in order, give his political party, and make a brief comment on his administration. I'm a history buff.
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The Real Donna — 5 years ago(June 07, 2020 06:32 PM)
Then you're biased in favor of black people which is okay but if you ignore everyone, then the other races/ethinities will get angry! That's what this administration was trying to resolve. The voters he represented needed an adminiatration to level out the playing field just a little. Things were off balance and you cannot ignore those folks because they…well they're angry just like blacks and latinos and other people of color are angry at the unfair government policies. It's a collective thing. It's about government. The point wasn't race wars. Only narrow minded stupid people made this about race wars.
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Corwin — 5 years ago(June 07, 2020 06:24 PM)
I definitely take your point on the Founding Fathers who were also slaveowners, and their statues' day might come, some day.
But beyond being merely a slaveowner, Lee is arguably a symbol of a slave-state in the making, the Confederacy. The Confederacy was about slavery. If you want to argue it was also about states' rights or mint juleps I will just have a nice laugh. -
Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(June 07, 2020 06:35 PM)
I was taught in school that the Civil War was about state's rights, not slavery. I had a good laugh at that one even when I was a kid. I agree with you there.
But you really think Jefferson's statue would or should come down because he owned slaves? I hope that kind of absurd denial and retroactive faux morality never sweeps this country.
Both the Union and the Confederacy had abominable practices. Women couldn't vote, homosexuals were thrown in prison, 10 year olds were forced to work in factories, blah blah blah. You can't judge those men by today's standards. Robert E Lee worked within the framework of the cards he was dealt by history.
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The Real Donna — 5 years ago(June 07, 2020 09:27 PM)
I doubt that Jefferson's black mistress had that much issue with being his mistress. Besides, Jefferson is long dead. People need to get over it. Lol a white man has never raped me. Never ever. I can't say that about any other race or ethnic man.
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Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 