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Stratego — 10 years ago(January 06, 2016 06:04 AM)
It's the extremely part that I find that hard to believe.
Yeah, because YOU like the movie. But if you're a big fan of the first two movies and don't like Scream 3 at all, it IS extremely disappointing.
If you feel that the Scream movies are judged less honestly by the fanbase than other movies are judged by THEIR fanbase, then you should provide a more convincing reason than your suggestion that all those fans are magically in love with Kevin Williamson. It doesn't make YOU very believable.
As far as third sequels go, horror or otherwise, Scream 3 would pretty much favor comparably.
Yeah, maybe compared to The Godfather 3. The Ewoks may blow, but TROTJ is hardly disappointing even if it's a lesser movie than its predeccessors. I only like the first movie in the Back to the Future trilogy, but the two sequels are pretty much at the same level. Most third sequels are to be found in the horror genre, where franchises pretty much start to suck already with the second movie. So there's much less disappointment when the third movie comes out. -
InTheHub — 10 years ago(January 09, 2016 11:37 PM)
Yeah, because YOU like the movie.
That's not true at all, there are tons of sequels I love but still can admit they're not technically the best of the franchise.
I can't believe how many people can't see that Scream 2 did start to suck by the second movie, even if it's still brilliant by standards.
Especially where the writings concerned, which is the biggest reason they claim the third sucks, there is a decline between Scream and Scream 2.
"It sucks because Kevin Williamson didn't write it" This is the sheep response by most fans. Kevin's writing is the weakest part of Scream 2. And don't even get me started on Scream 4.
It's hypocritical to say the least.
Scream 3 is just not that different or bad enough to be constantly called out the way it is on these boards.
It's also rarely championed for the troubles it had during production or the fact that it's the third sequel, it's bound to feel a little stale by this point.
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Stratego — 10 years ago(January 10, 2016 07:42 AM)
That's not true at all, there are tons of sequels I love but still can admit they're not technically the best of the franchise.
I'm talking about the fact that you're incapable of believing that people could be extremely disappointed with Scream 3. The only reason for that is that you love the movie.
I can't believe how many people can't see that Scream 2 did start to suck by the second movie, even if it's still brilliant by standards.
It didn't start to "suck", it was simply a step down, which the majority of people agree on.
there is a decline between Scream and Scream 2.
Most people agree with that.
"It sucks because Kevin Williamson didn't write it" This is the sheep response by most fans.
It's impossible to say if the movie wouldn't have sucked, but it's an understandable response as there's a clear difference in writing.
Scream 3 is just not that different or bad enough to be constantly called out the way it is on these boards.
You complain about any kind of criticism of Scream 3, you also agree with any kind of criticism of Scream 2. Don't call other people hypocritical.
It's also rarely championed for the troubles it had during production or the fact that it's the third sequel, it's bound to feel a little stale by this point.
Yeah, you don't champion Scream 2 either for the troubles it had during production. The script leaking and having to do rewrites while filming is bigger than any of the troubles Scream 3 ever faced. Scream 3 has more issues than just "feeling stale", but being a third sequel should not be an excuse for that. -
swordfish_man — 10 years ago(December 30, 2015 08:18 PM)
'Yeesh' the Weinstein Brothers. they're the reason we got what we got, not Kevin.
I really enjoy Scream 4 for what it is, but it would have been better had they just stuck with Kevin's original ideas. -
InsecureNeuroticControlFreak — 10 years ago(July 13, 2015 01:24 PM)
Scream 1 and 2 are better than Scream 3, but Ehren Kruger is a much better screenwriter than he is given credit for.
At least Scream 3 has character development. Scream 4 felt like a bad straight to DVD sequel.
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InsecureNeuroticControlFreak — 10 years ago(March 28, 2016 09:29 AM)
I still find it funny that people hate on Ehren Kruger so much. He's responsible for some VERY good films. Arlington Road, The Skeleton Key, etc. Kevin Williamson is a good writer, but it's not like he's the most talented guy in the world. He's written ONE truly brilliant piece of cinema, the first Scream.
Troll the respawn, Jeremy. -
Stratego — 10 years ago(March 28, 2016 02:55 PM)
You honestly think Arlington Road and Skeleton Key are very good films? Because I don't, and for the longest time I didn't even know they were written by the same guy.
As for Kevin Williamson, I'm gonna be honest, I don't like anything he wrote except the Scream movies and I Know What You Did Last Summer. -
Stratego — 10 years ago(March 29, 2016 11:18 AM)
Mwah, I much prefer the original version. It's much creepier and more subtle than the US version. Besides, most of the story is still the same, I'm not going to give Kruger credit for that. He also copied several other films like The Sixth Sense. And the horse scene was just stupid.
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