i hate this film
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moosepie — 19 years ago(November 11, 2006 08:29 PM)
this is the one film that i refuse to ever watch again. i'm not saying its a crappy film but i just personally hated it. i mean i know its sposed to be a black comedy and i normally love those (i love 'heathers' and i thought 'welcome to the dollhouse' was pretty good) but i couldn't see any humour in it. it was just completely misanthropic (sp?)and depressing to me. there wasn't one likable character except maybe joy but she was an eejit. this film takes away my will to live.
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schneiderjuerg — 19 years ago(November 14, 2006 02:08 AM)
that's the point of the movie. it's not your typical hollywood production with laughs and funny endings, it's supposed to be shocking and leave you with a bitter taste in your mouth. that's why i can't agree with you. i loved it. seldom have i suffered that much in a movie. at the end i walked out of it completely beaten. i love that!
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pantera2112 — 19 years ago(December 19, 2006 07:58 PM)
agreed. I just finished watching this film and had to come on here to express myself alittle.Very good movie. The kind that sticks with you.That dude you responded too, said that he'll never watch this movie againIt is because it struck a nerve so hard that he too will think of this film every time he sees one of the actors in another movie.The people who brought this film to life certainly did what they wanted to do..
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rivergirl301 — 15 years ago(May 18, 2010 08:04 PM)
I can watch the news if I want to be disgusted by child molesters, or watch porn if I want to see some guy jacking off. This movie was like some college student's film project. It wasn't shocking. Just dumb. I turned it off when the dad tried to drug the kid spending the night. This happens all the time in real life. Why would I want to watch a movie about it?
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Alex_Delarge2001 — 15 years ago(May 20, 2010 11:24 AM)
So you only like sci fi, fantasy movies?
Cuz most movies are about stuff that happens all the time in real life.
Despite the dark subject in the movie, it's quite a funny movie.
That's what dark comedy is, laughing at taboos, dark topics. You don't have to take life so serioulsy all the time.
The child molester is a working man, good father, family man. He's not presented like a 1 dimentional monster. All he wants is to be happy like all characters in the movie, unfortunely for him, he's attracted to children, which is disgusting, but it's something that he can't control.
He's ashamed of it, he thinks he is sick, but he reach a point in his life where he can't control the urges anymore. He's a human being with one great flaw.
That's whats great about his character. Makes you think about it.
I didn't choose to be attracted to women, i was born this way maybe same goes for the character.
The masturbator Hoffman character is funny because of his frustrations. Being a girl(guessing by your nick) it's normal you don't find it funny cuz you can't relate to it.
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rivergirl301 — 15 years ago(May 31, 2010 06:24 PM)
I think now, in the 21st century, we have learned that child abusers are not drooling monsters who hide in the shadows. They are the married father next door, the child's uncle, the baby sitter. This movie presenting the molester "not as a 1 dimensional monster" is NOT news, it's not some sort of break through. I don't think a guy masturbating because he is frustrated is a real knee slapper, either. I didn't see anything interesting in this movie except 1 dimensional characters (the clueless housewife, the vapid self-centered celebrity).
"The child molester is a working man, good father, family man. He's not presented like a 1 dimentional monster. All he wants is to be happy like all characters in the movie, unfortunely for him, he's attracted to children, which is disgusting, but it's something that he can't control. -
Alex_Delarge2001 — 15 years ago(June 03, 2010 06:41 AM)
Of course it's not news, but it's not usual in movies.
What makes the character interesting is it dares you to sympathize with him and think about his situation.
It's not supposed to news, hardly anything in movies is news, most of the time like i said it's just stories about stuff that happens irl.
What i like about the movie is that it makes me laugh at the darkest themes. Look at that father/son relatioship, is not something you see everyday for sure and certainly a movie that dares you laughing about pedophilia isn't that usual.
It's a satire, dark comedy, you don't have to take everything so serious.
You don't find the movie funny, that's fine, not your type of humour or you find those themes too disturbing, anyway i thought it was hilarious. -
Alison17 — 12 years ago(January 26, 2014 02:05 AM)
Though I haven't seen it in a while, this is one of the very few films I own. I love the savagely black humor of it. I can see why some people might find it too sick, but I think it's better to be able to laugh.
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openseason88 — 19 years ago(December 07, 2006 10:01 AM)
I see that people are into pushing what is considered "acceptable." I also understand that shock value is often central to art. This movie, however, needs some kind of redeeming feature. Spoiler Frankly, I find all the beep about child abuse (Dad whacking off to a boys life magazine) to be too disgusting.
I'm no prude, but I guess I dont see why anyone would WANT to see that kind of thing. Its not educational, entertaining, or enlightening. It is gross for its own sake.
Truly, how many people watch a movie saying "I wanna feel horrible after I see this. Not sad, not moved, just disgusted. I dont want any redeeming qualities to my characters."
I rate this film just above movies like "Bundy" or "Hannibal" as it at least doesn't romanticize the deeds of its twisted villains. -
chopper0116 — 19 years ago(December 08, 2006 06:54 PM)
I agree with the poster openseason88. I am still spinning from just having watched this movie. I truly don't know what to think. What character made me feel better about anything, who made me feel worse (I believe there is no ONE) Although we villify the pedophile & Rightly so. I am SO confused..I hated evey character. Except for Louise Lasser and the Husband . Very controversial film. I was sickened, but at the same time completely enveloped in the storyline. This can only come from the mind of a person who has been there and had that happen or almost happen. Great filmmaking.. Very.. disturbing film..
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dwhomp — 19 years ago(December 08, 2006 11:22 PM)
My Mother and I always have the same arguement when we get together
She blames violence in video games and movies and the like for helping the downfall of this country.
I always argue.
After this movie? I dont argue anymore. All you folks that are so hip and so knowledgable that enjoy this movie should be scoured with steel wool. Finding any humor in what he did is not genius, shocking, or amazingit is sick, plain and simple.
Now, before the "artists" get on my case, yeah, I get it. The fact this was even made is a sign that Solondz should just hang it up. Dollhouse maybe, the rest of his movies are nothing short of garbage. -
debaserthief — 17 years ago(September 28, 2008 06:58 PM)
I think the movie is supposed to make us uncomfortable and at the same time make us laugh at the beep up beep that can happen. No, I don't condone the incest/rape scene, obviously but in general, the film makes me think of the small beep that has happened to me is either not a big deal or I can learn to move past it. I love this film from the opening scene with John Lovitz to the "I came scene". And yes, probably bad idea to watch this with your mom. It would give me the willies if I sat there with my mom. My friend saw this film at the theater and said half of the audience left the theater. I experienced this with the film, Piano Teacher.
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coffey1134 — 18 years ago(April 10, 2007 06:47 PM)
I am going to agree with dwhomp 100% on this one. Just because a film is controversial or taboo, doesn't automatically make it worth a beep This movie has absolutly no artistic integrity and was painful to watch.