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    poem — 9 years ago(June 09, 2016 12:12 AM)

    Well, first of all, that wouldnt be a plot hole either way. Its an error in the world setting, not an impossible inconsistency of the plot.
    The Thermians did not even know the concept of lies. Thus everything that didnt make sense would be rationalized away. Thats perfectly common human behavior, too.
    For example, we could move our muscles long before we could explain why we could move them. Which by the way didnt occur before the mid of the 1990s !
    Likewise, if a Thermian would watch such a cartoon or behind-the-scenes, they would be confused. They would find a rationalization - though I cant think of one - or some error, or failing that they would treat it as a mystery and probably forget about it.
    Just like nobody thought of our lack of knowledge how our muscles actually move as an important hole in our knowledge before we actually found out.
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      TakeTwoTheyreSmall — 9 years ago(August 09, 2016 11:52 AM)

      It's more simple than that, I think. The Thermians possessed advanced technology, but lacked understanding of effective application to defend themselves. They were facing certain extinction at the hands of the villain, Sarris. Mathesar said himself, they had seen such evil deception used by Sarris against them, a concept which they "are only now beginning to learn at some great cost". Their extermination. Mathesar is told by Nesmith of the "deception" that is the TV show, which saddens him. Later, after they have destroyed the enemy ship, Mathesar "understands" the concept of deception Nesmith was referring was not the TV show, but the ruse Nesmith ran for Sarris' benefit, even acknowledging the reference to the tiny size of the actual/original ship used for the TV show was a deception for Sarris' benefit, finding the deception and outcome to be humorous. Being aware of a concept is far from understanding it. Sarris said it best, "explain, as you would a child."
      This brings us to the Thermian's reason for recreating everything GQ. It is reasonable to believe they had access to everything "TV Land". They, of course, viewed all of it as a form of documentary. While they had no understanding of the concept of entertainment and acting, they were able to disregard anything that didn't make sense to them. They were facing impending doom. They were to become extinct, at the hands of Sarris. They saw, in the TV programming, a solution to defend themselves, in the GQ shows; A solution their technology could support, and appeared sufficient to defeat Sarris. It was their motive that drove them to believe so strongly in GQ, while disregarding anything remotely contrary. It is likely they studied and ingrained the shows for a very long time, at least to them (who knows what is their lifespan, or the lengths of their technology). GQ being "unreal", would simply mean their extinction, as that was the only solution they had. Not believing meant their extinction, therefore, not believing was not an option they were willing to entertain. The only times they seemed or said they were "confused", was when faced with the reality of GQ. They accepted not understanding some things, so everything did not require rationalization. Cartoons were probably a good example of "file that under not understood, and move on". Or, it may simply mean they couldn't find 'Marvin the Martian', or some other space-traveling force, but they could find the characters of GQ. We are unaware of what took place in any of the GQ episodes (except one part of #81). It is possible/probable The Protector was destroyed in the last episode. This could explain the Thermians recreating everything, instead of just showing up and saying, "We need you and your ship." Something made them believe they needed to recreate the ship, before recruiting the crew.
      There are no "plot holes" in sci-fi. Only subsequent episodes, sequels, prequels and parallels.
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        ghostdog2041 — 9 years ago(December 20, 2016 07:41 AM)

        Not only that, but how did they fabricate the omega 13 without any idea of what it does? If they didn't understand it, what did they make it out of?
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          Goodbye_from_Fox_In_A_Box — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 04:56 PM)

          I'd say its a good thing they've only seen shows where actors wound up being stereotyped, cause I don't think they'd be able to handle an actor playing multiple parts (unless they just believed an actor's other roles were played by clones or something).
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            Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(June 20, 2021 06:09 PM)

            Another brain dead retard.
            They recognized cartoons as cartoons as we do. Knowing those were not real.
            As for "behind the scenes" **** those are not part of the shows when they are on, you ****ing brain dead retard.
            They are only on DVDs though I have never seen them on any of the TV DVDs that I own.
            And the Thermites were only watching TV shows.
            My god.
            You are just so ****ing stupid to have brought up such a stupid point.

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              WarrenPeace — 3 years ago(January 29, 2023 06:11 PM)

              You are so spot on with this DJ!
              Excellent points.
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                TheAdlerian — 4 years ago(June 20, 2021 06:13 PM)

                The movie is a COMEDY and comedies can have plot holes since the story is meant to be absurd and a joke.
                Galaxy Quest is not a drama.

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