Season 4… What happened??? Why the nosedive in quality?
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LauraJ1234 — 11 years ago(December 23, 2014 08:15 PM)
I almost cried at the end of Season 3 Crichton torn between his addiction to wormhole technology and his love of Aeryn, ending up stranded, alone
The story arc leading to that was so sad yet powerful and compelling, such a coherent narrative, multiple storylines coming together around Talyn, Scorpius, wormholes, Crichton and Aeryn, even Crais It was so strong I couldn't even continue for a month after the end of S3, I was so moved.
But then S4 quickly 'gets the band back together', and they go off on a series of disjointed episodes which do virtually nothing to move the plot forward or add to character development. There seems to be no point, and we're back in the 'random plot' territory which just happens to feature the same characters and shows only brief references to their histories or relationships.
WTF? What happened? Right now I'm halfway through S4 on Netflix, and I keep wondering: why the nosedive in quality or writing, and why the lack of a story arc? -
RockinRickyRialto — 11 years ago(December 23, 2014 11:02 PM)
You're probably at or close to the episode Unrealized Reality now, which actually forms sort of a three parter with the next two episodes, and definitely has important character moments and sets up things to come.
I guess it depends on your taste for quirky monster of the week episodesI really enjoy a lot of them, like Lava's A Many Splendored Thing and I Shrink, Therefore I Am (what was with the puns that season?). Also, the writers had to set up the character of Sikozu and the fact that Scorpius was now on the ship, so maybe they figured the best way to do that was just to feature them in some self-contained adventures so we'd see how they'd react. Another possible reason why there are a lot of these one-off episodes is that the producers thought they could stretch the story arc out, since they've said that the deal with Sci Fi guaranteed them another seasonor so they thought.
I will say that the season gets off to a weak start with the What Was Lost two parter, which just feels like a bunch of uninteresting exposition for new characters they had to get out of the way. My advice is to hang in there, because I think the end of season 4 actually is nearly as good as the best parts of season 3I can't imagine how pissed I would have been if I was watching the show during its cancellation!
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LauraJ1234 — 11 years ago(December 24, 2014 05:45 AM)
Thanks for the reply. I'm almost to Unrealized Reality. I would have hung in there either way, but it's nice to know it improves.
I had watched it sporadically when it first aired, but somewhere around early S3 I drifted away. I've seen a few on TV here and there, but now I'm making my way through n Netflix. I want to know how the series ends, despite the S5/movie issue.
And yes, 'monster of the week' never really worked for me.
Also yesterday I binged, and saw John Quixote it reminded me how much I miss the character of Zaan. She was a moral center of the show. Without her, the show seems to have drifted.
In many ways Farscape is a familiar 'Buck Rodgers in a world with marvels he never expected' theme, but simultaneously, the 'look and feel' of Farscape is unlike so much of what we've seen in other series. Symbiotic vessels, puppets as fully realized, unironic characters, all the characters having deep backstories and deep flaws which come out in every episode it's a universe as chaotic and incomprehensible as our own daily life (ie the lives of the viewers), with forces far greater than us as we simply try to get by. Which is the real heart of the Buck Rodgers concept. -
RockinRickyRialto — 11 years ago(December 24, 2014 07:55 PM)
"Well, it's a Jerry Springer kind of family. But for what it's worth, Zhaan, you're family." - Family Ties
Yes, Farscape really is something special.
High fives and corporate anthems, nothing comes to mind. -
lowriders95s10 — 11 years ago(December 26, 2014 06:23 PM)
After Unrealized Reality the season picks up quite a bit. Other than Twice Shy all the episodes hit it out of the park. The last four (the We're So Screwed trilogy and Bad Timing) are some of the best TV I have ever seen.
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AVickers — 10 years ago(July 20, 2015 08:50 AM)
I can't imagine how pissed I would have been if I was watching the show during its cancellation!
I was watching it when it got cancelled - and yes, it was a real blow. You also have to realise that in 2003, there had been nothing even remotely similar to Farscape - and outside of a movie theatre nothing in the SF world to touch it on quality. Plus, it had been guaranteed at least 2 more years, which was great - we didn't have to end a series on a "will they all sod off and do their own thing" note. So the cancellation hit doubly hard. -
imzadi76 — 11 years ago(December 31, 2014 01:40 PM)
Trust us, after "Unrealized Reality" Farscape picks up and doesn't stop until the series ands with the mini series. I'm sure you are going to enjoy the end. But unlike me you will not have to suffer after the final scene of season 4 and can just keep watching Peacekeeper Wars.
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LauraJ1234 — 11 years ago(January 05, 2015 04:52 PM)
Thanks everyone for responding. I've binged a bit, right now I'm through Constellation of Doubt, and it has definitely gotten pretty solid again. Well thought out plots and character development, a clear arc to the storylines
I'm already starting to feel sad that it'll be ending soon. I've been procrastinating on watching more episodes.
I just have to find Peacekeeper Wars online. -
saprater — 9 years ago(July 31, 2016 12:04 PM)
But unlike me you will not have to suffer after the final scene of season 4 and can just keep watching Peacekeeper Wars.
Oh god, that was brutal, right? And for it to have ended how it did in Bad Timing. I think I basically stalked the Terra Firma forums looking for any scrap of info on whether or not the fans could bring it back. I was hoping for a series pickup but was thrilled to have gotten the mini-series. I always dvr everything I watch, but this was one of the few things I just put my entire life on hold to see. Still remember the goosebumps when I saw the opening shot. -
ow916 — 11 years ago(January 19, 2015 09:46 AM)
I got to s4 a week after you and was disappointed. Still am after I finished.
It did pick up a bit half way through, but it's still way, way, way too much Crichton and wormholes, and that group of former prisoners just disappeared from the story. Annoying, wacky, confrontational, noisy, provokative, shouting Crichton that is, that just happens always to be right of course, and that everyone and their mortal enemies follow blindly.
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saprater — 10 years ago(May 14, 2015 09:25 PM)
It got a bit too dark for me. It was nice to see Crichton progress from the happy little everyguy astronaut to someone that fit more into the Uncharted Territories and the insanity contained within. However, I admit to being put off by a lot of the inner hallucinations and outer rantings.
Looking back at it years after my first viewing, it's still not my favorite season, but I understand it a bit more. Plus, there are a few "gems" in there that have me in stitches (Coup by Clam's drag scene and Don Quixote) or just impress the heck outta me (various parts of the We're So Screwed story arc, though there were some weak elements there as well).
Yeah. Season 4 was mostly misses, but I still watch them for the good bits.
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DJDarkchill — 11 years ago(February 04, 2015 04:57 AM)
The drop in quality was due to the network. Even though the show had a very solid viewer base, that figure wasn't rising it was perceived to be because the story had become so convoluted and dense, new viewers could not get into it.
It's all about the money more viewers mean more advertising revenue.
As a result, the show was ordered to reign it back somewhat make it easier for new viewers by making some generic 'week by week' storylines. Unfortunately, it really had the opposite effect the solid viewers were now annoyed, and the new viewers didn't come, and ratings actually dropped hence the show was cancelled at the end of season 4.
It's a prime example of a quality show being destroyed by the money-men.
Of course, the cancellation caused an outcry by the solid fan-base, especially as it ends on such a cliffhanger, so we got the whole of season 5 crammed into a 4 hr mini-series but it was better than nothing.
Have watched a lot of TV shows Farscape is still the very best show I have ever had the pleasure to watch, by a long shot hopefully with the rise in popularity of the show from new viewers on Netflix, the proposed film will get the finances Kickstarter, anyone? -
lexyladyjax — 9 years ago(June 29, 2016 09:44 AM)
DJDarkchill, what are you talking about? FARSCAPE was the number one series on the SciFi channel at the close of season Four. It was renewed for TWO SEASONS by SciFi! Then Skiffy was in position to be bought again so AFTER FARSCAPE was renewed for two seasons it was cancelled. It had nothing to do with the viewership and everything to do with SciFi going back on its word. Bonnie Hammer should die a slow painful death for that along with the nitwit who cancelled FIREFLY.
Seriously, if you don't know what happened, you shouldn't make it up. Some of us were around back then. We remember what happened. It's burned in our brains forever along with the unforgivable betrayal of SciFi who renewed and then cancelled. Don't ever do that. It's not fair.
Bored now. -
quitchy — 10 years ago(April 12, 2015 11:11 AM)
I'm rewatching the show at the moment and will be interested to see if I feel the same. At the time when it first aired I found that I loved the experimentation they did in season 3, but that it was also very hit-and-miss and I wasn't a fan of splitting the cast. For me season 4 felt stronger because the cast was reunited and they used the stuff that worked and ditched the stuff that didn't.
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captkirk_459 — 10 years ago(April 16, 2015 05:46 PM)
I agree the Season 4 is not as good as the previous three. There are great episodes of the season. I love the episode when D'argo goes against Macton. Awesome episode. Alternate realities is a great episode. Love Terra Firma and Kansas. The Beacon is a good episode.I shrink Therefore I am is a good episode.
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saprater — 9 years ago(July 31, 2016 11:57 AM)
I was the same when it first aired. I hated the darker tones of Season 4. However, it grows on you. Unfortunately for me, it grew after the show ended up being cancelled. LoL
Thank goodness for fans and the Peacekeeper Wars.
But I seriously wonder if a drop in ratings had Scifi pushing the creative team to go darker in order to attract more viewers. That's just my personal theory thoughso I'm not sure. Still, it is an interesting progression to see Crichton's personality go from the innocent optimist to a man who could kill billions to save the universe. I honestly don't know who I like watching more. Hmmmmethinks it's time for another Farscape binge.