Was Governor Luke's Father?….and what does it mean?
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baller_12 — 17 years ago(October 18, 2008 02:47 PM)
The simplest way for me to prove that he wasn't his father is by a deleted scene. In the scene Judge Mandrake reveals that Lukes mother isn't dead and he has video of her. So wouldn't you think that Judge Mandrake would have known that the govenor was his father.
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WhiteWingeDove — 17 years ago(February 05, 2009 11:59 AM)
That's interestingI never saw the deleted scene.
I don't think that Levritt was Luke's father because if he was, the other Skulls would have known about it. They were all spying on each other, and using their secrets for blackmail (hence Mandrake knowing about Levritt's affair with the younger girl). I think if the father/son thing was true, it would have come up in the movie, either by Mandrake using that against Levritt, or at least telling him that he knew about it. -
BookLover92 — 17 years ago(February 15, 2009 03:42 PM)
First of all: I think he was his father. Just because Judge Mandrake had a video of his mother doesn't mean he knew about the father and even if he did that doesn't mean he would have said it in the movie. I think they had him say "well done son, well done" just so some people will think he means "son". And most of you guys are forgeting just because the stulls spy on each other it doesn't mean they know "everything". And in the start of the movie they say Luke's "father is unknown" they really say that word for word. And also theres the part where he tells Luke "We have similer backgrounds you and I," in which case a similer background would have been Luke's mother.
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JCallies — 16 years ago(April 05, 2009 04:58 PM)
I don't think the senate is Luke's father.
I have no explanation why the skulls picked a no one like Luke, but I'm sure it wasn't because of a possible relationship between the both of them.
Sure it would explain why the senate helped Luke and Chloe but I thing the fact that they've got the same background doesn't mean the same background like the mother, but more the fact that their both coming from normal families without lots of money.
I can't really explain why I think their not father and son, but I'm sure thei aren't.
Even I never watched the second and third Movie of it (i started the second but didn't like it after the first 10 Minutes) I am sure their was any logical thing behind it, the most of us just doesn't understand. -
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fiatlux-1 — 13 years ago(September 09, 2012 12:54 PM)
it wasnt designed to be read into that much. The senator is just a senator. The way in which he uses the term "son" is simply a term of endearment, nothing else.
Exactly! There's nothing to suggest the Senator is anything but a fellow Skull to Luke.
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whomever23 — 15 years ago(January 15, 2011 03:11 AM)
Yeah, I agree with that. There's nothing strange or unusual about a southern gentleman referring to a younger man as "son." Also, I think people are missing the point about why the Senator takes Luke under his wing. He does it because he's using Luke. He needs help in taking over the Skulls, and he sees Luke as someone he can use to get it. Sure, he may also feel some affection for the guy, but that doesn't mean they're related.
As I see it, there are only two interesting questions:- Why does Luke get picked in the first place?
It might just be because Luke was great at crew. Remember, they mention that every other secret society tried to recruit him also. In real life, I don't think it's unheard of for major athletes to get recruited to secret societies. There's also the fact that Luke was applying to law school, and they might have seen real potential in him in that area. - Why does the Senator say "Well done, son" at the end?
I don't know the answer to this. It's what I was looking for online in the first place. Probably the movie makers just wanted to show that the character had some redeeming qualities, in that he was proud of the guy who'd served as his tool for taking over the society.
- Why does Luke get picked in the first place?
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that_heiress — 15 years ago(February 25, 2011 03:50 AM)
I definitely agree that the Senator was using him. He evens admits it. In his mind, he was doing it to better the organization or to steer it in a more admirable direction. I think he said, "Well done" at the end becauase Luke did exactly what he would have done had he had the strength to. At the beginning of the movie the Senator said that he and Luke shared similiar backgrounds which leads to me believe that either 1) he grew up poor, like Luke or 2) have similiar moral standards. I think he knew all a long that Luke would see the organization for what it was.
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jarn2004 — 14 years ago(May 29, 2011 05:47 PM)
Well, they obviously left it open for debate.. but he really could have been. And heres why.
We know from Mandrake that the Senator had tons of affairs. The only one he was blackmailing him for was the underage one.. so its possible he has tons of kids out there.
The second thing to support this is the video the senator had of lucas' mother in the deleted scene apparently Lucas' mother was not all that rich. How could she just afford to slip away into a new "happy"life? The skullzthats how. Why did they have video of her anyways? Why would they be watching and helping her? Because she father'd the illegitemate child of the senator. As someone else said why would a nobody get picked for the skullz and not only the skullz, but wanted by every organization cause he won some rowing competitions?