Over 100 plot holes and mistakes in this film! Terrible!
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Hannibal
WWu777 — 13 years ago(September 20, 2012 12:20 AM)
I just saw this film and was really disappointed. I've never seen a film with plot holes every minute. WTF?
There are so many. I can't even count them all. Let's see- There was no sensible or explanation given for Mason to cut off his face. You can't just give a person a knife and tell him to cut off his face. It doesn't work that way. Thus there is no explanation for it. Also, why was he paralyzed in a wheelchair? That wasn't explained either.
- That detective in Italy made a long list of errors that no one in law enforcement would make, nor anyone with any common sense.
- First, why did he need to try to apprehend Hannibal himself? The reward for his capture said "information leading to his capture". It didn't say that the winner of the reward had to apprehend him himself. No FBI website would tell a citizen to apprehend the criminal to get the reward. Sheesh. All he had to do was tell the FBI where he was and he'd get the reward.
- Second, why did he need to send a pickpocket to get stabbed by Hannibal, just to get his fingerprints? He could have just gotten his fingerprints from anything he touched. He could have showed him a picture and got his fingerprint from it. Or got it from his doorknob since he knew where he lived.
- Third, after finding out that Hannibal was a serial killer, why would he be alone in a room with him, and with his back turned? He showed no defensiveness at all. No one with a survival instinct would do that.
- Fourth, at the end, why does he turn his back toward Hannibal as he comes up behind him during the slide show? Totally stupid. No one would turn his back on a serial killer.
- And his ambush plan was stupid and unnecessary. Why couldn't he just arrest him any time anywhere? Why did he need to call someone in front of Hannibal to give himself away? That was a suicidal move. He was not a professional at all, like he called himself. He was a man with no common sense. Even a child would know better than to be that dumb around a serial killer.
- And after Lecter took out that stupid detective with zero common sense, how did he get away? Any cop or gangster could easily have taken Lecter out. He had no chance. Yet he hung the detective in public view and simply walked away unscathed? WTF?
Zero logic. This film made 0.00000000000000000 sense! Was this supposed to be an insult to our intelligence? - Finally, in the last part of the film:
How did Mason's men find Lecter? And how did Clarice find the barn that they were going to feed Lecter to the boars at? That was never explained. And how did the FBI know where Lecter and Clarice were at the end during the dinner scene? Is everyone omniscent in this film? Geez.
Nothing was explained in this film, and nothing made sense.
Terrible. Hundreds of plot holes, errors, and unexplained things.
How is this film so positive rated? I don't get it. Can someone explain?
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WWu777 — 13 years ago(November 07, 2012 02:57 AM)
Thanks for your answers.
But I still don't understand why that stupid detective didn't try to collect the FBI reward instead of Mason Verger's reward, which would have been under the table and unofficial. Why not just collect the FBI reward, which was what he was reading on the FBI website?
It doesn't make sense.
And get real. If you were him, would you turn your back on Hannibal, knowing that he was a serial killer? No one would. That part didn't make sense, and you know it.
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Ran129 — 13 years ago(November 15, 2012 07:32 AM)
I think you didn't watch the movie.
The FBI reward was $250,000.
Verger's reward was $3,000,000.
Which would you choose?
If you go back and watch the scene where he finds the reward it shows two different websites. -
Magovani — 13 years ago(January 23, 2013 01:10 AM)
Speaking of that reward, here's something really picky.
When Pazzi makes the second phone call about it, he gets a recorded message that provides some details.
After the message concludes, we hear "To repeat the message in French, press 2; in German, press 3; in Spanish" But all of it's in English.
How would this be helpful to a person who speaks only French/German/Spanish? -
AarOnHisBox — 11 years ago(August 08, 2014 01:24 PM)
Wow that is a stupid question. If you were in a foreign relation, do you know how you would know to listen to an English version of a recording? You would listen for either "Ingles" or "English" in the damn recording. Sheesh.
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detroit-velvet-smooth — 11 years ago(September 06, 2014 01:01 AM)
Its not a stupid question. If the message was for someone who only spoke that language you'd have that part of the message said in that language. They didn't even say the names of the languages in the right language. Lets pretend a German person doesn't know English of any kind. German in German is called Deutsch I think. Sounds nothing like it. For that matter how can we assume anyone who doesn't speak the language being used in the message knows what "Press Two" means. "Two" in German is "Zwei".
Its a perfectly valid point. The more distant anything gets from the roots of Romance Languages the weirder it gets. Can you imagine trying to decipher the Hindi version of "Press Two" on a scratchy phone signal in a loud room or something?
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UHK — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 01:33 AM)
It's kind of a valid point and it would be better if the recording delivered those sentences in regarded languages and I also realized it watching the movie but still huge majority of people know the numbers 1-2-3-4 and the English name of their language even if they don't speak English, so it would still mostly work this way.
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ADStoney — 12 years ago(May 25, 2013 11:13 PM)
Yes, all of those "plotholes" have been answered. The answers were all in the movie if you had paid attention.
The one question about why would Pazzi turn his back on a known serial killer could also be answered in that he was interested in the slide Lecter was showing him. Lecter even asked if he could make out what it said, Pazzi was curious and in trying to read it temporarily dropped his guard. -
rtodd110 — 12 years ago(July 14, 2013 02:19 AM)
i didn't care for the movie, but just by your first "plot hole" i can tell you did not watch the film closely
hannibal gave him a drug I think lsd, it was said in the film
so before you start rattling off plot holes it would help if you just paid attention
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CasseroleWorshipper — 12 years ago(October 06, 2013 01:40 PM)
- There was no sensible or explanation given for Mason to cut off his face. You can't just give a person a knife and tell him to cut off his face. It doesn't work that way. Thus there is no explanation for it. Also, why was he paralyzed in a wheelchair? That wasn't explained either.
Mason was stoned out of his mind and it has been made clear in the Hannibal films that Lecter has the capability of convincing people to do what they normally wouldn't. He also made Miggs kill himself by swallowing his own tongue. - That detective in Italy made a long list of errors that no one in law enforcement would make, nor anyone with any common sense.
Firstly, he didn't have much common sense. Why would you expect a drowsy-looking inspector operating in Florence to be a super-bright detective? - Third, after finding out that Hannibal was a serial killer, why would he be alone in a room with him, and with his back turned? He showed no defensiveness at all. No one with a survival instinct would do that.
- Fourth, at the end, why does he turn his back toward Hannibal as he comes up behind him during the slide show? Totally stupid. No one would turn his back on a serial killer.
He didn't have much of a choice and he probably felt safe because he knew Mason's people were outside, ready to roll, and also assumed that Hannibal didn't know he was onto him anyway. - And his ambush plan was stupid and unnecessary. Why couldn't he just arrest him any time anywhere? Why did he need to call someone in front of Hannibal to give himself away? That was a suicidal move. He was not a professional at all, like he called himself. He was a man with no common sense. Even a child would know better than to be that dumb around a serial killer.
He couldn't have arrested him because he wanted Mason to get Hannibal and claim the reward, which would not have happened had he just cuffed him. - And after Lecter took out that stupid detective with zero common sense, how did he get away? Any cop or gangster could easily have taken Lecter out. He had no chance. Yet he hung the detective in public view and simply walked away unscathed? WTF?
Completely plausible.
How did Mason's men find Lecter? And how did Clarice find the barn that they were going to feed Lecter to the boars at? That was never explained. And how did the FBI know where Lecter and Clarice were at the end during the dinner scene? Is everyone omniscent in this film? Geez.
Krendler led Mason's men to Lecter, didn't he?
And Clarice knew where Mason lived. She also followed his goons.
I don't mean to impose, but I am the Ocean.
- There was no sensible or explanation given for Mason to cut off his face. You can't just give a person a knife and tell him to cut off his face. It doesn't work that way. Thus there is no explanation for it. Also, why was he paralyzed in a wheelchair? That wasn't explained either.
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mechacorta — 10 years ago(January 06, 2016 04:55 PM)
"Why would you expect a drowsy-looking inspector operating in Florence to be a super-bright detective?"
Columbo, lol.
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bluemagicmist — 12 years ago(November 10, 2013 06:34 PM)
I agree, that Pazzi had so many opportunities to get Hannibal's fingerprints, he was handling so many things. ugh
Two things that bothered me, when Pazzi hired that pick pocket to get Hannibal's fingerprint on the bangle, Hannibal bought a newspaper which would have his fingerprints all over it, and he discards it, why not just pick it up of the ground instead of the elaborate plan of bumping into him?
I was annoyed with Starling hurrying to save Hannibal? What the ??!! She had no qualms in shooting in the head the HIV lady holding the baby, but oh no, Hannibal the cannibal, she HAS to save. Stupid movie!! -
rphilip1 — 12 years ago(November 22, 2013 09:07 AM)
Well Pazzi was clearly an idiot. That's not a plot hole. And Clarice had no choice but to shoot the woman with the baby, she was shooting people. There was no need to shoot Hannibal. Especially since she already had a reputation of shooting people and at the time she had her gun and badge taken away so it would have been complicated if she shot him.