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Can someone explain this comment from Ebert's review?

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    hannah_e_jones — 19 years ago(November 19, 2006 03:18 AM)

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    At the end, we realise that throughout the entire trip Luisa knew she had terminal cancer.
    Between the wedding scene and the start of the road trip, she goes to the doctor to get some test results back; the narrator talks about the womens' magazine questionnaire she is filling out in the waiting room. The doctor then comes for her and she gets up to follow him.
    There are a couple of scenes which show Luisa crying, although I don't know exactly which the 'two shots' Ebert refers to are. We assume she cries because of Jano's infidelity, but really it's because she knows she is dying.

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      jyanks — 19 years ago(December 12, 2006 11:33 AM)

      In my opinion, the 2 specific scenes that Roger Ebert references, are:

      1. The doctor's office scene (as hannah pointed out above)
      2. The scene when she is on the phone with her husband for the last time. She basically is making peace with him; she forgives him; she says that she is not mad; she says that she has no hard feelings, & wishes him well. It may seem odd to the viewer how kind & forgiving she seems toward a cheating husband. Yet, at the end, when we find out her health status - that changes our view of that scene. We now understand her phone conversation & see it in a new light.
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        Raksha_Keller — 19 years ago(December 13, 2006 06:10 AM)

        Very astutely put
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          haewatein — 17 years ago(December 23, 2008 05:54 PM)

          Great post, now I understand a lot more of the film!
          I totally ignored the scene with the doctor and would never thought of it that Luisa knew all the time she was sick. Wow, your post made the film even better in my eyes!
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            aussula — 17 years ago(December 24, 2008 05:51 PM)

            This.
            Luisa made peace with herself and got what she had always wanted in life.
            I just went back to the start lol.
            Will watch it again - it really helped me with my depression, and gave me a will to live.

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                hypnosis — 19 years ago(February 15, 2007 01:11 PM)

                Could it also be the shot where Luisa is pretending to sleep in the car when it arrives at the beach?
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                      hypnosis — 19 years ago(February 19, 2007 08:34 PM)

                      Haha, very impressive!UNLESS you used a search engine to find it, in which case you lose all credibility. Either way, it's a great film 🙂
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                              eL137 — 18 years ago(May 04, 2007 10:42 PM)

                              that's really interesting that you guys all read ebert's comment as directed toward Luisa. it makes a lot of sense if it's about Luisa and you're probably all right, but for some reason, i saw it differently. to me, ebert's comment was about Julio and the fact that he was in love with Tenoche and whether or not he's gay. and i saw the 2 shots as being:

                              1. when Julio sees Tenoche and Luisa have sex in the hotel room and
                              2. when he has tears in his eyes after Tenoche leaves the cafe at the end of the movie
                                did anyone else see this?
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                                  tampaMr — 17 years ago(April 09, 2008 01:55 PM)

                                  yes L137
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                                    mm389907 — 17 years ago(September 27, 2008 03:22 PM)

                                    yeah that julio thing is pretty interesting.
                                    If it has to do with Luisa, then the two scenes are
                                    (1) The doctor's office
                                    (2) When she is sitting on the beach holding the baby and talking to the baby's mother (forget her name Chuey's wife..). The woman says something about how Luisa would make a great mother, and that she's the perfect age too. Just look at Luisa's face during this scene, and you'll know what I'm talking about.

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                                      blacklives4ever — 17 years ago(December 04, 2008 05:36 PM)

                                      What's great about the scene with the children is that when you see the look on her face you think it's because she's thinking of Jano and how they probably won't stay together and have children.
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                                        PhoenixPhuck — 17 years ago(January 19, 2009 02:49 AM)

                                        yeah i thought ebert was talking about the gayness
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                                          Krustallos — 13 years ago(July 18, 2012 10:20 AM)

                                          I think the gayness is a fourth level. The Luisa dying storyline is quite a big thing after all, I don't think Ebert would completely ignore it in his review. In fact having seen the film for a third time, there's a strong case for reading the whole thing as Luisa's story, with Julio and Tenoch as supporting characters. There are references to death in almost every frame.
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