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    Anscules — 11 years ago(July 09, 2014 10:15 PM)

    DAD is garbage. AVTAK at least has some isolated pleasures. Outside of the first ten minutes, there are none in DAD.
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        Ronsin1976 — 11 years ago(July 04, 2014 11:07 AM)

        All in my opinion, no disrespect to anyone.
        I do believe Die Another Day is horrible. It's the Bond producers trying to capitalize on the Star Wars CGI craze of the late 90s to mid 2000s. Even Moore, who is humble and defends fellow Bond actors/films, thought this was a turd. He should knew he made a few himself, A Man with a Golden Gun, Octopussy.
        Diamonds are Forever and A Man with a Golden Gun were boring.

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          TMC-4 — 11 years ago(September 15, 2014 01:44 AM)

          DAD
          seemed to aiming more to be like
          xXx
          and
          The Matrix
          than
          Star Wars
          (even w/ then new prequels around, I still associate
          Moonraker
          as the Bond movie that most tried to ape or capitalize off of
          Star Wars
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            TMC-4 — 9 years ago(July 20, 2016 12:46 AM)

            Roger Moore was the "king of sorts" of ludicrous Bond movies given that he did
            Moonraker
            . At least unlike
            DAD
            ,
            MR
            from the very jump, knew what kind of movie it was (unlike
            DAD
            , which had the very dark and gritty premise of Bond being captured and tortured in North Korea) and had some classy sets and great stunts (i.e. the opening free fall involving Bond and Jaws) to make up for it.

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              Jeneral28 — 11 years ago(July 18, 2014 01:09 PM)

              DAD ending was so crappy. At least in AVTK you have the typical Moore/Bond ending with Q knowing his boy Bond is still "Bonding" and M wondering where he is.
              DAD was good up to the Hong Kong part with that Hotel concierge/Bond-ally guy. Afterwwards it was terrible.
              AVTK bond girl's were far better.

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                RasAlBane — 11 years ago(August 16, 2014 12:09 PM)

                A View To A Kill is so much more enjoyable, yes its got May Day, Bond girl that screams alot, worst opening sequence and grandpa Bond but at least its very watchable. But Die Another Day is just so incredibly boring, its should actually be considered an accomplishment to make such a bad film!

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                  lisasboyfriend — 11 years ago(August 24, 2014 03:21 AM)

                  AVTAK is better then DAD. Max Zorin was a real evil sadistic villain which I like, not some idiot who turns from a North Korean Mongoloid into some white British entrepreneur like Gustav Graves. Roger Moore, Christopher Walkin, and Grace Jones did great in the movie. The only gripe is the Bond girl Stacey Sutton played by Tanya Moore who was a crybaby wimp. At least, she did not act ghetto like Halle Berry did in DAD.
                  Say NO to crappy vampire love stories such as the Twilight movies!

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                    maxzorindresden — 11 years ago(September 09, 2014 10:21 PM)

                    I prefer AVTAK over the Brosnans films (cept GE , that was good) , also the plot seemed down to Earth for a Bond.
                    Beach Boys in the intro was kinda corny , besides that it was a cool PTS.

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                      sawfan1414 — 11 years ago(October 26, 2014 11:45 PM)

                      There is NOTHING enjoyable about AVTAK outside of the title song and Walken, how anyone can rank it ahead of DAD blows my mind with sheer stupidity. People constantly bitch about the terrible CGI, do you sheep on the bandwagon realize that Die Another Day had an excellent first half? It was only in the final 45 minutes that it went to hell.
                      Due to it's first half, it EASILY ranks ahead of some of the more boring entries like AVTAK, OP, DAF, TMWTGG, and QoS.
                      Ron beep Swanson is the greatest thing that ever happened to television.

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                        TMC-4 — 9 years ago(July 20, 2016 12:48 AM)

                        I kind of don't really understand why Roger Moore doesn't like the scene involving Christopher Walken machine gunning down his employees down in the mind shaft. It was just a perfect example of just how utterly psychotic and unpredictable of an opportunity that Bond had to go up against. Maybe Roger thought that particular scene was way too dark (especially for his Bond universe) and needlessly took things to the extreme.

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                          shatteredx — 11 years ago(November 13, 2014 09:12 PM)

                          First of all, congrats on this great topic. AVtaK vs. DAD is a hilariously awesome battle of the worst Bonds. But, I do have a favorite
                          Let's get the bad out of the way, Die Another Day is without a doubt for me, the worst Bond flick. I watched all the Bond films up through Quantum of Solace a couple years ago, and Die Another Day really stood out as almost a complete dumpster fire of a Bond movie. The 'opening gambit' is actually pretty good, but right after Bond escapes from the hospital boat or whatever it was, and walks into that Chinese 5 star hotel, the movie enters a surreal zone of complete garbage. I actually kind of enjoyed it back in 2002 when I saw it in the theater as a 15 year old, but coming back to it at the ripe old age of 25, it's just awful. I'd go on, but I really can't remember too many specifics about the film. Brosnan tries admirably but can't save it. The fencing scene was kinda cool. The invisible car is kind of dumb but whatever. The CGI lava-ice surfing is pretty horrendous. Was there a villain? I can't even recall at this point. I do remember the infra-red image of Halle Berry graphically straddling Bond, so there's something.
                          A View to a Kill is a bad Bond movie but I can't hate it. They used to show it on TBS so much during those Bond marathons that I have a kind of sick nostalgia for the movie now. Christopher Walken pinning Grace Jones to the ground and forceably making out with her was etched into my 9 year-old brain and has affected my sexuality. Roger Moore as the 60 year old Bond is charming in a grandfatherly sort of manner (he refuses to bone the 14 year old!). I don't know, the movie is just damnedly watchable to me. Unlike Die Another Day.

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                            Bizarro_Saints — 11 years ago(December 06, 2014 09:54 AM)

                            Christopher Walken pinning Grace Jones to the ground and forceably making out with her was etched into my 9 year-old brain and has affected my sexuality.
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                              Multiglobal — 11 years ago(November 15, 2014 11:29 AM)

                              I didn't think A View to a Kill was that bad. A bit boring, but not nearly as boring as The Man with the Golden Gun. The Bond girls were bad, but Christopher Walken was an awesome villain.
                              Die Another Day is part of the age when CGI was "new" and Hollywood went nuts over it. There's nothing to like about it or Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones. Watching them will literally warp your mind so bad that you lose intelligence.

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                                Jeneral28 — 10 years ago(July 01, 2015 01:07 AM)

                                Zorin is a better villain than Colonel Moon. At least he had a better plan.

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                                  lilwith — 10 years ago(October 21, 2015 11:39 PM)

                                  I hate Roger Moore and typically can't stand his Bond films (most of them) but DAD takes the cake as worst Final outing.

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                                    Blue Wave — 4 years ago(October 10, 2021 09:41 PM)

                                    I wouldn't say forgotteon. I remember the poison pill dialogue plus the "trust is everything in this business" line at the end of the film.

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                                      NothingButTheBest — 10 months ago(May 18, 2025 02:29 PM)

                                      I really don't think A View to a Kill is that bad. Moore was older but it was an enjoyable film.
                                      Die Another Day starts off quite well but goes downhill, as if it goes in another direction where everything had to be over the top.

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