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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — John Q


    bigdaddydave — 20 years ago(November 19, 2005 03:21 PM)

    Dear Americans
    I have just watched John Q. I found it to be rather silly! Rather contrived, unrealistic and had a rather skewed set of morals. But that is beside the point!
    I am from England, in England we have the National Health Service. Sure, it is a bit crappy but the fact is, if I needed a heart operation I could get it completely free. Even brain surgery! In fact any medical condition is covered.
    I am proud to live in a country where peoples wealth doesnt determine the value of their life. As a result we all pay higher taxes though, but no one really minds because the NHS is such a treasured ideology.
    Would you be in favour of a similar system in America?

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      Homme_James — 20 years ago(November 19, 2005 03:24 PM)

      The NHS isn't an ideology.
      The NHS isn't crappy.
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        lady_AJ — 20 years ago(November 19, 2005 03:33 PM)

        im from england and i just watched it as well. the NHS might be free but it isnt always reliable. if u pay attnetion to the news, the NHS aint at its best at the mo cos theres still a long list for ppl to hav operations and things like dat. when i was 9 i had quite a major cancelled twice cos of ppl on the list had problems that were "worse" than mine. ok, the otha patients might be very bad and i cant help that, but if my name was first, might as well go in list order.

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          Homme_James — 20 years ago(November 19, 2005 03:42 PM)

          Sure thats cool. I hope you managed to get seen in time in the end.
          But if you lived Romania or any third world country, you would realise that the NHS is actually a godsend.
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            NickNaylor — 19 years ago(January 12, 2007 07:12 PM)

            I know how crappy our Government runs things you don't have to rub it in our faces
            "I Am Jack's Wasted Life"

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              joey-rodriguez — 17 years ago(May 08, 2008 11:43 AM)

              Romania is beautiful and they don't have bad teeth 😜
              Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain.

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                medoxis — 17 years ago(January 29, 2009 10:53 AM)

                Be nice Romania may not be the greatest place, but it's not a third world country. I'm certain I looked it up on Wikipedia!
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:First_second_third_worlds_map.svg

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                  danilla2000 — 11 years ago(May 08, 2014 02:12 PM)

                  I'm Romanian. There, the morality is like a communistic ideology but without an ideology, same manners without a purpose, so the ignorance grows up and the conditions are twisted - We have 2nd World conditions (except for military power, good infantry, battleships, ammunition and so on), but we use them to do nothing.
                  So you can say as well that Romania has 3rd world conditions.

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                      spike_number1 — 20 years ago(November 19, 2005 04:19 PM)

                      "the otha patients might be very bad and i cant help that, but if my name was first, might as well go in list order"
                      Totally disagree with you there, the medical service is all about who needs the help the most and thats the way it should be.
                      The NHS is in a better condition than its been for a long time and with the amount of investment the government has but into it, hopefully it will continue to improve. The percentage increase in health spending since the labour party came to power far outstrips any other western country.

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                        hudson382 — 20 years ago(November 20, 2005 07:32 AM)

                        Come on, when do we hear about all the good things the NHS have done. The news ain't interested unless somone got sick maimed or killed. By the way this movie was about as convincing as a George Bush speech about the " war on terror" I was sorry to see Denzel Washington, Robert Duval and Ray Liota waste their talent on this.
                        Sanity is the playground for the unimaginative.

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                          mole02 — 20 years ago(January 05, 2006 01:44 PM)

                          lolThen obviously, you don't know much about the American society. This movie reflected a problem that exists on a regular basis in the United States. The only people who really get by in this country are those who can afford it because the system is more or less run these days with almost total favor to the rich.

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                            EibhlinnSavage — 15 years ago(July 13, 2010 05:01 AM)

                            I think the point is I'd rather be turned away and put on a waiting list because there isn't enough beds in the hospital than hearing I can't ever get my heart transplant because I don't have money for it. I grew up in France. I think the French system is the best I've ever experienced. No waiting list, costs of medical care are based on your income. if you can pay, you pay a little, if you can't you don't. That said, if I had to choose between the American system and the British NHS, I'd go for the British NHS any day. The other systems may not be perfect. But the American system is easily the worst in the developped world.
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                              saint_cyr_g — 14 years ago(November 13, 2011 12:51 PM)

                              Sure you can complain, but your are still alive. I doubt very much you would be willing to give up your free coverage. You should be greatful you live in a country where you don't have to sell your house and everything you own to get treatment.

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                                lady_AJ — 14 years ago(November 13, 2011 05:56 PM)

                                IS THIS WHAT I SAID BACK THEN? Sorry ppl I take it back. I've had 3 opperations and been in hospital 2 more times for epilepsy problems and it is quite hyper in there, and these cuts that the government are making aren't helping.

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                                  swordsaint0 — 12 years ago(March 20, 2014 01:34 PM)

                                  The medical system operates on a triage system - that is, the people who are worse (all factors considered) get attention first, and some hopeless cases get attention never (they're not going to give a 70-year-old alcoholic a new liver).
                                  This is true in most civilized countries, and the only exception is when you can BUY your way ahead of others.

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