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    electricshysta — 10 years ago(September 04, 2015 06:04 PM)

    Single season or not, I think Firefly is the best thing he's ever done.
    I watched Buffy first when it initially ran, saw both that and Angel all the way through, and while they are for the better part pretty good shows (with some hit and miss episodes) with some interesting and endearing characters, some great twists and turns and pretty good overlapping/continuing/recurring themes and storylines - in their 8-or-so seasons each, they never once made me feel the way Firefly did.
    So for me, it's no.
    They were good, but to me they're about a 7 with occasional raises, to fireflys perfect 10.

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      MaximumMadness — 10 years ago(September 10, 2015 12:01 PM)

      I haven't watched
      Angel
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      Dollhouse
      yet, but I've seen the first four seasons of
      Buffy
      and I'd highly recommend it.
      It can definitely be hard to get into because it's first few seasons are incredibly dated, and it turns some people off. But if you can look past the obvious "90's-ness" of it all, it's an amazing series. (I personally find it nostalgically charming and it adds another dimension for me because it reminds me of the decade of my childhood.)
      And FURTHERMORE, this is my signature! SERIOUSLY! Did you think I was still talking about my point?

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        poem — 10 years ago(September 14, 2015 01:34 AM)

        IMHO:
        Firefly was going to be Joss Whedons masterpiece. The dialogues, the characters, the storylines are all absolutely awesome.
        BtVS is his journeyman piece. Already very, very good, but not as good as Firefly. Still it has "Buffyspeak", kind of its own language.
        Angel, he only really was there for that in season five. Before he mostly relied on the writers he gave to that project, since he still had BtVS and he was also doing Firefly at one point. Some people still prefer this over BtVS, I dont know why. They claim its more "adult" and that it surely is. But its very low on humor, the romances are typically less intense, its all very dark, frankly I dont get why anyone prefers this. Still theres plenty of good episode and storyarcs.
        IMHO his weakest piece so far was Dollhouse. Season two was better than season one. Still theres a tendency to call it Dullhouse.
        Then theres his Avenger stuff and his smaller projects.
        All in all Joss Whedon projects IMHO so far are all worth it.
        You shall have no other Kates before Kate Winslet.

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          fuzzykids — 10 years ago(October 05, 2015 10:59 PM)

          I could never get into Angel.
          However I loved Dollhouse, Firefly and Buffy in that order, thought they are all close.

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            Morbius_Fitzgerald — 10 years ago(October 06, 2015 05:50 PM)

            I would say, "yes" and "no" I'd say yes, Firefly is better because it has more consistantly good episodes. I can honestly only think of 3 I hate. So 11 out of 14 episodes I consistently will say I likedthat has to be a pretty good hit rate.
            The problemthe 14 episodes. It isn't even a full season of TV. Fox never gave this show a chance so the adventures depicted here don't really have a purpose because theres no big final climax. So unless your interested, there really isn't all that much to see. On the whole it IS just as good but it also kind of isn't, if that makes sense.

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              martymcflyhasparkinsons — 9 years ago(May 03, 2016 06:04 PM)

              Angel and Buffy are both better than Firefly. However, if Firefly had been given as much time to develop and progress, it would have likely surpassed them. Buffy had 7 seasons. Angel had 5. That's a lot of time to develop characters and construct long story arcs. In just 1 season, Firefly made its mark. If it had been allowed to continue, I believe it would have ended up being Whedon's opus.

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                preachcaleb — 9 years ago(May 04, 2016 06:18 AM)

                Firefly made its mark. If it had been allowed to continue, I believe it would have ended up being Whedon's opus.
                Agreed. I really think Joss was probably gearing up for that.
                Let's be bad guys.

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                    preachcaleb — 9 years ago(May 06, 2016 06:07 AM)

                    I'm sure if it had run five season people would be like "well it jumped the shark after season 3" or "season 2 was soooo slow".
                    I gotta disagree. If anything, all of Joss's shows (including Dollhouse) have shown us that his shows improve with their second and third seasons. So if Firefly was this good in its first season, I can't imagine what its second season would've been.
                    Let's be bad guys.

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                      Beren44 — 9 years ago(May 08, 2016 03:40 PM)

                      I have to put Firefly on top of the list. But Dollhouse is so very, very underrated. It was a fantastic show as well.

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                        preachcaleb — 9 years ago(May 09, 2016 06:03 AM)

                        Agreed. It had some great twists and surprises and some phenomenal performances from the cast.
                        Let's be bad guys.

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                          HippieDrillSealOfApproval — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 12:48 PM)

                          For me Angel and Buffy are as good or even slightly better than Firefly. I still need to see Dollhouse.
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                            preachcaleb — 9 years ago(November 28, 2016 06:26 AM)

                            Dollhouse is probably his hardest to get into. Its first handful of episodes are ok. But once its myth arc starts, it's some fine television.
                            Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead.

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