For those who whine about tipping…
-
sdietrich719 — 14 years ago(June 12, 2011 05:51 AM)
Whoa, buddy, that is not the same at allI will argue to the death that waiters deserve tips, but Pizza delivery boys do not make 3.00 an hourtips are extra for you guys, so you need to do something exceptional to get one (like be able to get me my pizza on time).
I hate IMDb sometimes! They are never any
when you need it. -
TheDistantPanic — 14 years ago(June 12, 2011 02:31 PM)
Yes, servers make 3.00 an hour and rely on tips entirely. However, it's still considered common courtesy to tip people like pizza deliverers, valet, room service people, hair cutters, car wash hand driers, cab drivers etc. No doubt some people are more dense than others, and a lot, like yourself, regularly stiff these people, but it is generally good form to tip
anyone
who provides you with a basic service, not just servers.
While this is more debatable with some jobs (i.e. cab drivers), tipping pizza guys is one of the more common courtesies and not doing so is generally considered "stiffing", not just, "not tipping". -
sdietrich719 — 14 years ago(June 12, 2011 03:47 PM)
Most pizza places in my area also tack on a delivery chargeif I were to go pick up the pizza myself, would you expect I tip the counter guy who hands me the pizza?
You also said it was a courtesy, so therefore it is not expected and it is not "stiffing" them if I don't tip them.
I hate IMDb sometimes! They are never any
when you need it. -
TheDistantPanic — 14 years ago(June 13, 2011 02:17 PM)
Most pizza deliverers
do
expect to be tipped, just as bradley says above, and they
do
consider not being tipped "stiffing". Most places where you can order pizza online drop a hint that you should (i.e. 'it would be "cool" to tip your driver or something'). The delivery charge is just that- an extra charge you're paying the company for an additional service. It's not a gratuity that goes to the min. wage driver.
If you picked the pizza up yourself, you're not getting any additional service. The guy who hands you the pizza isn't leaving the store to personally hand deliver it to your home. There's a difference.
And, yes, it's a courtesy: a common courtesy. In other words, it's a courtesy everyone is generally expected to follow, whereas not doing so is probably a "dick move." -
sdietrich719 — 14 years ago(June 13, 2011 03:24 PM)
They can expect to be tipped all they want, but they do not rely on the tips for their wage. If I am paying the pizza company a delivery charge, I am already paying for the delivery service. If the driver wants to get a tip, he has to do one simple thingget me my pizza in the time it was quoted to me. That is the only thing he has to do. I will tip the local pizza guy about 9 out of 10 timesit is pretty rare they screw up. Now, when we go on trips, my wife and I almost always order a pizza to be delivered to our room. Here, the driver has to do two things to get a tipget it to me on time and bring me some friggin plates and silverware (which I always ask for)it seems these guys only get a tip 1 out of every two times because they are always forgetting the plates. I view the pizza gratuity simply as something they need to earn, not just automatically get.
I hate IMDb sometimes! They are never any
when you need it. -
TheDistantPanic — 14 years ago(June 15, 2011 12:34 PM)
See, I think that's perfectly reasonable. I was under the impression that you were against tipping them in general because they don't rely on tips, but I totally agree that if they can't do their job right, not tipping them isn't a big deal.
-
jonathon0689 — 14 years ago(October 29, 2011 08:07 PM)
Drivers don't require tips to meet minimum wage? That is where you are wrong. While drivers are on the road they make less than minimum wage. While a driver does get a portion of the "delivery fee," it is not the whole amount; usually less than half. Worst of all, who do you think is paying for the gas in the delivery vehicle? In most cases who do you think owns the delivery vehicle that must be maintained?
I figured it up. If a driver is delivering a pizza approximately 3.5 miles in the average delivery vehicle and getting paid the average "delivery fee" at today's gas prices, that driver breaks about even on the delivery fee on the round trip. Now consider that driver is making $4.85 an hour, is it okay to stiff him/her?
Suppose now that the same driver is making a delivery 4 miles from the store. Now that driver is losing money, not only on gas, but on the wages he/she is making for the time spent on the road.
So, if you think a delivery driver doesn't rely on tips to make their wage, then you have no idea what you are talking about and probably should not order pizza delivery.
As for plates and silverware, it's pizza not spaghetti. It is not always the driver's fault you don't have those things. The moron on the phone, who is getting paid their full wage, often forgets to tell the driver (or doesn't care) or forgets to put it on the ticket. -
sdietrich719 — 14 years ago(October 29, 2011 09:51 PM)
HmmI know a couple of guys who delivered pizza and they got paid minimum wage plus tips. I never said I wouldn't tip. I only said that the driver had to get me my pizza on time. It is very rare that this doesn't happen, too. As far as getting me plates and utensils, it should be obvious that if you are going to a hotel to deliver a pizza that you would take these things with you. I always ask for them and really I shouldn't even have to. If the driver sees he is going to a hotel, he should go grab a couple of plates and some utensils. It would take 20 seconds.
I hate IMDb sometimes! They are never any
when you need it. -
Doc80 — 9 years ago(April 17, 2016 04:38 PM)
You just answered your own question. If you go and pick it up then no, you shouldn't be expected to tip but if you are too lazy to get off your ass and do that and instead have it delivered then yes, a tip should be expected. That being said though, if a delivery charge is attached then that should be the tip but most places don't give those to the drivers. That is a totally different matter though.
-
-
movie_fan59 — 14 years ago(September 24, 2011 08:09 PM)
Delivery drivers are not the same as servers in a full-service restaurant. Why? Because delivery drivers can't be paid an amount below the Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. Food service employees could be paid as low as $2.13 per hour with a maximum tip credit of $5.12 per hour. While most states don't permit a tip credit per hour that low, many states permit food service employees to be paid a minimum wage below $7.25.
Delivery drivers don't take the order, check on beverages during the meal, make sure that the customer is being properly taken care of, etc. All they do is drive to and from the customer's house.
Should delivery drivers be tipped? Certainly. Should it be a 15% tip? No chance. -
lukeshand — 14 years ago(November 04, 2011 06:52 PM)
I have been employed by two different delivery pizza chains. The current rate for the one I just left is $4.43/hour plus $0.90 per delivery. We paid our own gas/oil/upkeep. Oil changes were due about every month to month and a half. The average delivery was about 4 miles away. We answered the phones, took the orders, made the pizza, and delivered it. This is at one of the three biggest delivery chains in the U.S. I don't know where you are, but I doubt your waitress made your food nor took it to your house.
-
mikey1969 — 13 years ago(July 15, 2012 10:11 AM)
It's easy
$25 tab. 10% is $2.50, half of $2.50 is $1.25, add those together, you have $3.75. I make it easy and tip 20% default, unless it's horrendous service(I still give %15 though, since the poor slobs are getting screwed by the company they work for. I waited for 5 years, I'm a softie!), but either way, it's not as hard as it might seem to calculate the 15%. -
meidal84 — 15 years ago(December 17, 2010 06:03 AM)
I totally agree. However I haven't received your tips yet for the quality service I have provided you by making it possible for you to access the internet and rant about tips.
My hard line of work that involved 5 years of university to do a bachelors and a masters, working at any possible schedule like 4 in the morning or weekends and holidays. For those of you who do not think every single job of the world deserves tips, remember, us people that have brains will do these things for you anyway as we get paid to do it and dont require tips to be motivated to be productive to society. -
meidal84 — 13 years ago(August 04, 2012 10:20 PM)
Sorry for the late answer. Going on the internet and telling people they have to tip if they want to go to a "full service restaurant" is my definition of being a jerk.
So a server needs money for food and education? I guess we need a 30% mandatory tip law!!!
The rest of us didn't need money for our education and food.
Did you really write that you require a double Master's degree in order to not require tips to be motivated? -