Why did she have sex in the police car?
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LittleMissSunshine1993 — 19 years ago(June 13, 2006 10:53 AM)
This scene completely threw me when I saw the movie. It just seemed out of place and out of context and seem to come out of nowhere. IMO, this was the only thing I didn't care for in this movie (simply because it didn't really make sense (I mean sure they obviously were interested in each other, but it seemed to me they hardly knew each other)). I think the whole Jean/Crane relationship could've used a little bit more work.
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dr.gonzo-4 — 19 years ago(June 27, 2006 02:23 PM)
The majority of what I heard in this thread was out of place, out of place, unecessary, and blah blah blah. Guess what guys, we all have our own interpretations of what happens in a movie and should never make generalizations like that. A director is an artist and he paints his canvas as he damn well pleases. The scene didn't bother me and not because I'm a guy who enjoys seeing something like that on screen either. But because maybe she made a mistake, maybe she is insecure, maybe this is how all her relationships began, maybe she feels the only way she can connect with men is on a physical level. Maybe we should use our precious little minds and give the director some leeway. I'm sure if anything the scene was originally a lot more graphic but the studios said no way. This is a foreign director who is not at all uptight with human sexuality, just see My Life As a Dog as an example.
By the way, I can't stand when people compare movies with books, they are two totally different things and should be kept seperate when evaluating. It's like trying to compare a painting with a poem. When you read a book, you create your own, personal visual interpretation of what you are reading. A film version of a book is the filmmakers' interpretation and not yours, get it? -
DanceDiva480 — 19 years ago(July 15, 2006 09:08 AM)
You have a good point but I just think that scene was totally randome! It was just out of no where! If the director wanted that to happen he could have made it fit alittle better.
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trollkarlen2003 — 19 years ago(August 30, 2006 02:30 PM)
i know, i liked the movie up to that point.
but i couldnt take it seriously after that,
and they didnt even show anything, just a car bouncing from yards away.
otherwise it would atleast have had a hot scene with j-lo, so? -
michaelingp — 19 years ago(September 04, 2006 06:17 PM)
"Maybe we should use our precious little minds and give the director some leeway."
Actually, directors, like authors, have very little leeway once their characters are established. I've heard many book authors write about this. They say their readers are incredibly sensitive to the characters doing things that the characters wouldn't do. When I first heard this, I thought it was nuts. You think the author creates the characters, and therefore can make them do whatever they want the characters do. You'd think if the character does something that the character wouldn't do, well, then the reader should understand they may have misunderstood the character. But this thread is a perfect example. I agree with the others that Jean simply would not have done it, and it grates on many viewers. Characters doing things they wouldn't do is the biggest error an author can make, and apparently it applies to screenwriters and directors as well. -
PrariWolf — 19 years ago(September 14, 2006 07:43 AM)
If you get a chance and are that interested, listen to the director's commentary track. He explains how they shot the scene, removed it, put it back in, while trying to establish just what sort of person Jean was. Flawed, weak, etc. Did you think she was a selfish whore who wasn't good enough to get into a healthy relationship or be friends with a man? Good, because that's what she thought of herself. She was still punishing herself for her guilt over her husband's death at that point, and loathing herself as much as the audience does.
What I found unfortunate in the commentary was the mention that Lopez' unsought negative publicity at the time nearly made them change the film to soften her. In 10 or 15 years, I suspect people will view this performance in a much more positive light. I don't get why people are so down on her anyway. She is talented, multifaceted and charismatic, and plain fun to watch (and no, I'm not a slavering teenage boy). Is it jealousy? -
krzyfrssw — 19 years ago(September 15, 2006 07:19 PM)
Jean reminded me A LOT of my mom. She was abused by several men in her life, including my dad, though the ones after him were far worse. My mom used to do things like what Jean did.
When a woman is abused, not only does she feel she doesn't deserve better, but their self-worth is not very high. Some figure that since they get treated like crap, they must be crap and are worth crap. Thankfully, my mom learned that she's worth a lot more than what men let her believe.
The scene in the movie made perfect sense to me. I'd say it's very realistic. If she hadn't been living in her father-in-law's house, she'd probably would have brought the guy home.
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krzyfrssw — 19 years ago(December 28, 2006 03:54 PM)
It's been a couple of months since I've watched this film, but from what I remember, you may be right, jediknight. It does seem that he took advantage of her vulnerability. But, on the other hand, maybe he knew that that's what she wanted and needed. Sex without an emotional attachment can be a wonderful stress reliever; and a way to "escape".