Liberal mind teaser… Refugees and Terrorism
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T-Mex — 9 years ago(February 16, 2017 09:51 AM)
ISIS uses images of little girls reading from a book as a propaganda tool.
I'm sure they are.
But the one thing they hate more than anything else is nations who try to help and unite instead of creating a divide. Because their main goal, what they thrive on, is the divide.
And we went there and fought for them to have schools, hospitals, police and stable governmentsbut the world 'hated' us for it.
Well, actually, it was mostly for stupid, ignorant, misguided ideological decisions like sacking Saddam's army, while simultaneously disenfranchising all Baath Party members at all levels - against the advice of their military leaders - which essentially created a huge militia of angry, frustrated, men, trained to kill and armed to their teeth. Stuff like that. You know, the creation of the Iraqi insurgence. Whose leaders are one and the same as ISIS leaders today.
If experts really knew what the problems were, they would be fixing them instead of commenting on them.
What makes you think that? Experts comment all the time. Some work on it and comment. Some just comment, because they have previous experience. Some don't comment at all.
Sorry, that was just an irrelevant quote from you. You know way better than that.
Btw, Darkramj, I'll miss our exchanges. Don't think I won't.
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Darkramj — 9 years ago(February 16, 2017 10:05 AM)
But the one thing they hate more than anything else is nations who try to help and unite instead of creating a divide. Because their main goal, what they thrive on, is the divide.
Which is why people without the authority or the responsibility shouldn't undermine a government just because they didn't get the POTUS they wanted.
You know, the creation of the Iraqi insurgence. Whose leaders are one and the same as ISIS leaders today.
We know, that's why rushing to abandon the country for political points was just one in a long list of bad ideas.
When you have a 24hour news cycle, an expert is nothing more than someone who talks while a host takes a sip of water.
Btw, Darkramj, I'll miss our exchanges. Don't think I won't.
As will I, sir. you've always been a gentleman no matter how intense the disagreement.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it. G.K. Chesterton -
bbrown2676 — 9 years ago(February 16, 2017 09:23 AM)
Man, you love to load a question
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/loaded-question
Banning refugees will give the critics of our nation more fodder for attacks against our nation. Be they political or terrorist.
If we are accepting refugees, our critics have no reason to point at us and say "Look at how terrible they are!"
If we turn them away, they have more ammunition to sling at us. That may cause the fringe to turn away from us and towards our enemies.
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Ankylo-01 — 9 years ago(February 16, 2017 09:29 AM)
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000082/flat/266058601?d=266081693#266081693
Ahem, You type a lot of crap, bbrown.
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Ankylo-01 — 9 years ago(February 16, 2017 09:39 AM)
Banning refugees will give the critics of our nation more fodder for attacks against our nation. Be they political or terrorist.
The critics don't have facts or stats in their favor, though. In fact, they don't even have majority support. Terrorists don't care one way or the other. They're already here. Don't you think they exploited Obama's stance on immigration and the U.S./Mexico border? Border Security says they did, regardless of a ban.
Hell, they're being brought here freely, by planes. Why else are the settled ones bringing in diseases at record numbers?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/17/22-resettled-refugees-minnesota-tested-positive-tuberculosis/
http://www.sfaw.org/newswire/2016/08/28/refugees-boosting-the-tb-rate-in-nebraskatheyre-ill-not-legal-aliens/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/28/seven-refugees-active-tb-sent-idaho/
They're not being vetted properly and the terrorists especially know this. They even said they would take advantage of our weak system years ago.
Did you watch that recent video of that U.S. Marine that had to leave Iraq? Take it from him. They're masters of deception.
"i donated $500 to Hillary and $1000 to Stein."- thepalestfire
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bbrown2676 — 9 years ago(February 16, 2017 09:48 AM)
The critics don't have facts or stats in their favor, though. In fact, they don't even have majority support.
The sad fact is, since when do facts and stats matter? Especially to our nation's critics.
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Ankylo-01 — 9 years ago(February 16, 2017 10:04 AM)
Since when? Since always. I don't care how clueless they are. They should be educated.
And no Terrorist group has majority support.
What? I didn't say that. I said the ban does.
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Darkramj — 9 years ago(February 16, 2017 09:43 AM)
Banning refugees will give the critics of our nation more fodder for attacks against our nation. Be they political or terrorist.
Because our government's duty is not to it's people, but the world's approval.
If we are accepting refugees, our critics have no reason to point at us and say "Look at how terrible they are!"
Our enemies will call it weak and naïve.
If we turn them away, they have more ammunition to sling at us. That may cause the fringe to turn away from us and towards our enemies.
Our enemies behead, torture, kill, commit horrific acts around the globe.
It's ridiculous to think that someone would find that a worthy alternative to accepting some policy.
Ridiculous that acts by Muslim extremist groups do not inspire your outrage a fraction as much as a little security protocol does.
And if the prospect of not being able to make a home in the U.S. is enough to drive you into the arms of jihadis, you weren't worth courting and we're better off with you far away.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it. G.K. Chesterton -
GladysOver — 9 years ago(February 16, 2017 10:06 AM)
Banning refugees will give the critics of our nation more fodder for attacks against our nation. Be they political or
terrorist
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but if they're already inclined towards terrorism then how will an immigration ban from the countries such scum typically hail from make things worse?
Indeed, you also surely can't be be implying that strict immigration controls will somewhow compel otherwise peaceable citizens into instigating mass murder.or are you?!
If we are accepting refugees, our critics have no reason to point at us and say "Look at how terrible they are!"
But Germany, France, the U.K., Belgium and not least the U.S. have all been subjected to Islamic terrorism - none of whom were enacting any purportedly controversial immigration bans at the time, as evidenced by some of those attacks being perpetrated by purported 'refugees'!
If we turn them away, they have more ammunition to sling at us.
This is perversely remiscent of the stoning scene in Life of Brian where the condemned is warned just before his execution that he's making it
worse
for himself by repeating the name "Jehovah".
And coincidentally his adroit response to John Cleese's high priest is precisely mine to your rather silly assertions
GladysOver: the (piss) artist formerly known as Chopper-Chang -
wordsatplaytoday — 9 years ago(February 16, 2017 09:47 AM)
The real question is:
If Muslim refugees have nothing to do with terrorism, than why bother banning them?
Zero American deaths in America have happened from anyone from the seven countries named in the ban.
Trump lies:
Mexico is going to pay for the wall.
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Heretic_Of_Jeff_Bezos — 9 years ago(February 16, 2017 09:52 AM)
If Muslim refugees have nothing to do with terrorism, than why bother banning them?
Because they do have something to do with terrorism. ISIS said they'd use refugees to commit terrorist attacks, much like they have been doing in Europe. Duh.
Zero American deaths in America have happened from anyone from the seven countries named in the ban.
Remember the Ohio State Stabber? Somalian.
No deaths, but it must be inconvenient for you.
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eddyhops — 9 years ago(February 16, 2017 10:02 AM)
If Muslim refugees have nothing to do with terrorism, then why will banning refugees cause terrorism?
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