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Yeah, so before this movie and his critical acclaim, P.S.Hoffman's most "compelling" claim to cinematic (dramatic) fame

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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Capote


    isolated_ions — 17 years ago(September 28, 2008 10:04 AM)

    Yeah, so before this movie and his critical acclaim, P.S.Hoffman's most "compelling" claim to cinematic (dramatic) fame could be summed up with these lines:
    "Let it RAIN!"
    "I just sharted myself"
    and the ever charming, "I'ma fuggin idiot imma fuggin idiot, fuggin idiot, fuggin idiioott!"
    So, when and where exactly was it Hollywood/critics started taking this guy's celluloid "legacy" seriously? By the way if you don't know where those brilliant lines are taken from, don't even consider calling yourself a fan or responding to this in kind! =p

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      inoe-1 — 17 years ago(October 07, 2008 09:27 AM)

      What do you think of his performance in Capote? That's really the bottom line.

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        AND77 — 17 years ago(October 14, 2008 03:10 PM)

        I'm guessing the OP is really asking why Hoffman is so highly regarded when he has not had a history of being "popular" with middle America, i.e. "no one has heard of him."
        If you've seen many of his films, you know that Hoffman plays interesting, off-beat characters in just about every film he's in. Before "Capote," I mostly knew him for his performances in "Flawless," "Love Liza," "Boogie Nights," and "Almost Famous." Even onscreen with major stars, Hoffman is clearly the most talented man in the room.
        Hoffman is very well-respected because he is known to choose characters he LIKES and WANTS TO PLAY over glamorous big-budget films with crappy scripts (although he's known to show up in big-budget films he likes occasionally).
        Bottom line: he's been known in the industry for years as a man who acts, not a man with a career agenda aspiring to be a star and to make buckets of money. Also, it goes without saying that he is one of the greatest actors of our time.

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          inoe-1 — 17 years ago(October 15, 2008 05:29 AM)

          Very well said!

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            chris_marlow40 — 17 years ago(April 01, 2009 04:29 PM)

            He's also phenomenal in 25th Hour with Ed Norton. Hoffman, Norton and Barry Pepper are actually all exceptional.

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              Sunshine1910 — 16 years ago(May 24, 2009 04:44 PM)

              Well said AND77. I first saw him in The Talented Mr Ripley and have loved his performances ever since! Whatever character he plays, he's always entertaining.

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                  geezerbu — 16 years ago(September 02, 2009 08:22 AM)

                  That was the first time I saw him too and he made an impression! Yeah and also Happiness he played really good there! I watch every movie he is in because you know the movie is gonna be at least over par and he never disappoints!

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                    Desrio — 16 years ago(June 05, 2009 09:46 AM)

                    The point is; when Hoffman's on screen - even if it's a supporting role - it's Hoffman that you watch. He has great screen presence and can always be relied on to give a finely nuanced performance. Talking of which; why has nobody thought to mention the performance that Clifton Collins jr gives in 'Capote'?

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                      deepblue501 — 16 years ago(July 25, 2009 12:29 PM)

                      I think Capote was his worst performace. I hated it. But Hoffman belongs to the most talented actors currently. He was great in:

                      • Magnolia
                      • Happiness
                      • Talented Mr. Ripley
                      • 25th hour
                        and much more. He plays in great movies (except for Capote) and knows how to pick 'em. He should win something soon.
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                        Doom — 16 years ago(August 25, 2009 06:39 AM)

                        The point is; when Hoffman's on screen - even if it's a supporting role - it's Hoffman that you watch.
                        I agree 100%.
                        Wait a minute who am I here?

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                          mmitsos-1 — 16 years ago(December 02, 2009 04:36 PM)

                          deepblue501, you're crazy. It's not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of fact.Capote was in no way, no how, his worst performance. It was one of his best. He was sublime in it.
                          You clearly do not know anything about acting if you think that that was his worst performance.

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                            ntsly1 — 14 years ago(January 19, 2012 03:32 PM)

                            Hoffman is and always has been an incredible actor. Hoffman's "Owning Mahowny" comes to mind. I challenge you to find an actor who better portrays the addiction of gambling.superb acting. Incredible performance as well as in Capote.

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                              I_Created_U — 13 years ago(November 09, 2012 11:03 AM)

                              He should win something soon?? HELLO? He won a oscar for his performance for this very movie!
                              And i understand u didn't like the movie, but how can u not be convinced by the astonishing way he depicted Capote? I mean, its not given to everyone to be able to play a homosexual and even less making it look so real and believable Did you ever doubt that Hoffman was really homo? When i watched it i was convinced he was one and thats how one recognize a good actor, when he makes u think he's NOT acting IMO. Have u ever heard Hoffman's real voice? He has such a manly deep voice that contrasts incredibly with the one he chose for Capote, and the behaviour, the gesture, the mimics. Amazing and damn comvincing!
                              Especially the last scene when he says goodbye to both beep and starts to cry i mean, wasn't it great and one of the most performance ever??
                              Its beyond my understanding O_o
                              But again, its only my opinion.
                              Peace
                              "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs"

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                                ZaZeus — 13 years ago(September 17, 2012 01:49 AM)

                                It was funny because I actually had no idea who he was before Along Came Polly came out. Then I knew him from that movie as the guy who introduced the word "sharting" to the world. Then Capote came out and I was like ..what? haha.

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                                  tj-94 — 12 years ago(February 10, 2014 02:56 PM)

                                  Nobody's Fool with Paul Newman as the gung-ho Officer Raymer

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                                    isolated_ions — 12 years ago(February 14, 2014 01:40 AM)

                                    Oh wow, heh. I had almost forgotten about that film/role. Thanks for directly answering my question, though.
                                    I meant the thread as a bit of levity & humor for anyone who has followed him or enjoyed his acting over the years. I don't know if 'Nobody's Fool' is necessarily when he began to get noticed as an upper tier actor, but I suppose there's those who would make the argument.
                                    I remember him 'Scent of a Woman' too.

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                                      theemaster — 11 years ago(February 25, 2015 04:09 AM)

                                      I first really noticed him in the
                                      dirk diggler
                                      movie.. aka boogie nights

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                                        venusthrow — 10 years ago(March 10, 2016 03:33 PM)

                                        I first noticed him in twister. Love his quote
                                        You slaughter your own cows, Meg, nice.
                                        we crave red meat
                                        Meg's gravy is famous. It's practically a food group.
                                        there are other great ones in that movie

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