So now its a fence and not a wall; Not going to overturn RVW….
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 07:41 PM)
We'll leave it up to the states. We don't want Obamacare but we'll keep some parts. I'm going to drain the swap but my chief of state is the RNC insider and my cabinet is full of the same establishment. All this within a week. LOL at everyone who voted for his fool.
And to the minorities who thought he doesn't hold the prejudice people said he had: he just hired a white nationalist in his cabinet.
He sold you snake oil (the syntactic kind) right to your uneducated faces.
Wait until they make even healthcare even more expensive - and millions of the poor lose it all together. Wait until they privatize social security. And, just wait until they cut taxes while fighting an inevitable war - financial destruction on top of civil unrest.
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shalamar-2 — 9 years ago(November 14, 2016 07:52 AM)
You would know what a bad trip was.
Trump is just being practical on everything, dope. He stated many times already that a wall wasn't needed for the whole border.
He also stated many times that there were parts of the ACA he'd keep.
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 09:26 PM)
His whole campaign was that he wasn't like Obama and that he was going to make America Great Again - so if he is not living up to his promises - like you just insinuated - the same way Obama didn't then his whole "Make America Great Again" was a lie.
And the WALL, OBAMACARE, AND RVWADE were the CORE principals of his campaign - and it has been changed and altered substantially within a week - ONE week is all it took. Shame on you fools.
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 09:46 PM)
The only way I would be mad is if I voted for him. I knew he was full of hot air - he was a liar and is a yes man - and it only took a week and Leslie Stahl to point that out.
Do you think Trump will use imported wood for the fence - like he did Chinese steel or will he at least use wood right here from good ole USA?
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Darkramj — 9 years ago(November 17, 2016 03:02 PM)
See, that's why you lost the states; you took him literally but not seriously.
Now he's President-Elect and you'll have to do something extraordinary, unprecedented and destabilizing to America as a whole to change it.
Or you can listen to Oprah, and give him a fair chance to do this thing.
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 17, 2016 03:17 PM)
See, that's why you lost the states; you took him literally but not seriously.
I'm sorry that when someone says wall I should have taken that to mean a fence
Excuses.
Now he's President-Elect and you'll have to do something extraordinary, unprecedented and destabilizing to America as a whole to change it.
If President Ryan - I mean speaker Ryan - since Trump is actually the president (in name only) gets his way then the dismantling of Medicare by 2017 (something Trump promised he wouldn't touch) will be just one of the extraordinary, unprecedented things that destabilizes America.
Or you can listen to Oprah, and give him a fair chance to do this thing.
Oprah doesn't trump (no pun) common sense - sorry I don't allow my chain to be pulled by just anyone with a billion dollars whether that person be a black liberal woman or an orange man.
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Darkramj — 9 years ago(November 17, 2016 03:27 PM)
I'm sorry that when someone says wall I should have taken that to mean a fence
No need to apologize, just remember when we heard 'wall' we knew it meant comprehensive and effective immigration policy reform and enforcement.
Now you know too. Welcome.
If President Ryan - I mean speaker Ryan - since Trump is actually the president (in name only) gets his way then the dismantling of Medicare by 2017 (something Trump promised he wouldn't touch) will be just one of the extraordinary, unprecedented things that destabilizes America.
Medicare and ACA has serious issues that can be solved at a federal level. It needs to be touched in the interests of public wellness. Which is to say many of the things both programs provide are worth preserving, but providing more efficiently and effectively. If that is change you object totough.
Oprah doesn't trump (no pun) common sense - sorry I don't allow my chain to be pulled by just anyone with a billion dollars whether that person be a black liberal woman or an orange man.
But you let the DNC pull it, they are still pulling it. I think you would have a new understanding of common sense if you took your chain away from any political ideology or facton.
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 17, 2016 03:43 PM)
No need to apologize, just remember when we heard 'wall' we knew it meant comprehensive and effective immigration policy reform and enforcement.
No "we" didn't hear anything - since the concrete wall was outlined with illustrations and dimensions on his website. If I say I'm going to build you a 14 room/19 bath mansion, draw up the plans, an show you pictures of what said mansion will look like - then I build you a tiny house with a portapotty - you would have every right to scream foul and sue me.
Medicare and ACA has serious issues that can be solved at a federal level. It needs to be touched in the interests of public wellness. Which is to say many of the things both programs provide are worth preserving, but providing more efficiently and effectively. If that is change you object totough.
People like Medicare as is - and providing vouchers to people to give to insurance companies that won't cover the full cost since the voucher will stay the same no matter how much the costs increase - is not beneficial no matter how much you try to spin it.
And whether you wrongly think it needs to be "touched" is not the point. Point is Trump said he wouldn't and campaigned on that promise - since most seniors do not want it "touched" - so if it's "touched" anyway - isn't that a LIE?
But you let the DNC pull it, they are still pulling it. I think you would have a new understanding of common sense if you took your chain away from any political ideology or facton.
You said that I should listen to Oprah - as if because she's a Democrat - I should suspend common sense. I replied that's not something I am willing to do - Democrat or not.
What you responded with about me sticking to political ideology is actually the exact opposite of what I said I would do.
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 09:33 PM)
op actually thought a Muslim ban would happen lol derp
The word Muslim was not mentioned in my OP - please stay in school and learn how to read or at least comprehend.
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 09:32 PM)
He's sending the 3 million criminal illegals back and the others can earn their citizenship building the wall.
Haven't you heard the wall is now a fence. LOL - a fence can't even keep out a strong a gust of wind. Big difference between a WALL and a fence - that we already have up in some parts of the southern border.
Also Obama deported 2 million immigrants and didn't run on and anti immigration campaign - so deporting 3 millions isn't some great feat and is only a million more than the previous administration.
In addition 3 million will not make a dent in the 12 million illegals already here - so how much of an impact do you think that deportation will have?
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ed_zeppelin — 9 years ago(November 14, 2016 03:41 PM)
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 09:37 PM)
A wall and a fence are two different things. Republicans want a fence - you know the same Republican establishment the swap that he claimed needed to be drained) who he hired all throughout his cabinet. Yes those people want a fence. The same establishment that will have to pass a budget for a wall.
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