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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(October 10, 2024 06:58 PM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
OK well this is a photo that I came across in ‘The Beatles Story’ in Liverpool. The Beatles Story is a walkthrough attraction and part museum which tells the story of the Beatles in a sort of chronological order and has you walking through mock ups of that club in Hamburg, The Cavern, NEMS music shop, Abbey Road Studios and others…even past a Magical Mystery Tour bus and inside a Yellow Submarine. Along the way there are various items to look at from The Beatles career such as George Harrison’s original guitar and Brian Epstein’s coat. It’s all a real treat for a Beatles fan ANYWAY whilst walking through the section on Beatlemania I came across this photo enlarged on a wall. A couple of the people in it look really familiar to me and two of the ones at the front appear to be wearing quite modern clothing. Maybe this clothing would not be out of place in the latter 1960s but I’ve researched and the photo was taken at a Beatles concert in Manchester in 1963…though this could be wrong. So…time travellers?! WHO ARE THEY?!!
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This photo Bobby?
Well, if it is, the one in the middle is doing a Janet Leigh in the shower face from the movie Psycho which was out only 3 years earlier (So probably not so long ago in the UK back then) and has a Lulu hairstyle from exactly that year
Her pal on her left (Or right) has been to the exact same off the rack shop and got the exact same outfit (Including tights/stockings). Only she has bazooka boobs. While their fashion could be seen as contemporary I'd say that impulse comes to your mind from modern fashion copying what was done before and turning it into seasons. Their underskirts are not modern (But fancy, I guess they were hopeful!) and everything they are wearing is brand new. I think you are just looking at an early example of cloned fashion which is smart but unremarkable.
The woman on her right (Our left) has an actual outfit more befitting on that particular era and would only be worn these days by someone who didn't have a friend who was copying them. Obviously bought from either a tailor or a more bespoke parlour than the other two. She's a maddy though as she's sitting on her seat which is still in the upright position. I bet you she was bopping and a grooving like there was no tomorrow.
So that clears up those three.
The time traveller vibe you got was probably from a very late-90's Nicole Kidman time bounty hunter who had just discovered Verne Troyer, behind that loony bopper, who had borrowed the time machine from 'The Spy Who Shagged Me' and was bringing him home so that she could get her husband at the time, Tom Cruise, a part in 'Goldmember' (And for her bounty payment she got a divorce from him).
There's more to this picture, of course - they have a thousand words each, at least, but that should cover your fashion and time travelling aspects Bobby
I hope that helps clear things up!
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(October 10, 2024 08:02 PM)
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This photo Bobby?
Well, if it is, the one in the middle is doing a Janet Leigh in the shower face from the movie Psycho which was out only 3 years earlier (So probably not so long ago in the UK back then) and has a Lulu hairstyle from exactly that year
Her pal on her left (Or right) has been to the exact same off the rack shop and got the exact same outfit (Including tights/stockings). Only she has bazooka boobs. While their fashion could be seen as contemporary I'd say that impulse comes to your mind from modern fashion copying what was done before and turning it into seasons. Their underskirts are not modern (But fancy, I guess they were hopeful!) and everything they are wearing is brand new. I think you are just looking at an early example of cloned fashion which is smart but unremarkable.
The woman on her right (Our left) has an actual outfit more befitting on that particular era and would only be worn these days by someone who didn't have a friend who was copying them. Obviously bought from either a tailor or a more bespoke parlour than the other two. She's a maddy though as she's sitting on her seat which is still in the upright position. I bet you she was bopping and a grooving like there was no tomorrow.
So that clears up those three.
The time traveller vibe you got was probably from a very late-90's Nicole Kidman time bounty hunter who had just discovered Verne Troyer, behind that loony bopper, who had borrowed the time machine from 'The Spy Who Shagged Me' and was bringing him home so that she could get her husband at the time, Tom Cruise, a part in 'Goldmember' (And for her bounty payment she got a divorce from him).
There's more to this picture, of course - they have a thousand words each, at least, but that should cover your fashion and time travelling aspects Bobby
I hope that helps clear things up!
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Yes thank you for breaking that down for me Siggy. It’s made most of what has affected me about the picture make more sense to me and just leaves one more loose end…
Do you see that girl on our left but a bit behind who appears to have turned her dowdy period outfit into band merch? Well she looks EXACTLY like a friend of mine. Now this friend is in her mid to late 30s now so obviously the girl in the picture at the time will be much younger than my friend is now (being a screaming Beatles fan). Does this mean that my friend time slipped to a Beatles concert about 20 years ago?
Also a number of the hairstyles in this pic remind me of Myra Hindley and that is never good.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(October 10, 2024 08:21 PM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
Yes thank you for breaking that down for me Siggy. It’s made most of what has affected me about the picture make more sense to me and just leaves one more loose end…
Do you see that girl on our left but a bit behind who appears to have turned her dowdy period outfit into band merch? Well she looks EXACTLY like a friend of mine. Now this friend is in her mid to late 30s now so obviously the girl in the picture at the time will be much younger than my friend is now (being a screaming Beatles fan). Does this mean that my friend time slipped to a Beatles concert about 20 years ago?
Also a number of the hairstyles in this pic remind me of Myra Hindley and that is never good.
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I was trying to find a nice way to talk about the haircut Bobby. Blondie, Her from Goldfrapp, Sia, Jodie Foster in The Accused, but there just isn't a reasonable enough away to go about it
I think you pinned the tail on the donkey with Myra Hindley
As for the woollen jumper lady with the fake band merch (Our right) I thought she looked like Anna Chancellor. Now it is possible that that woman is Anna Chancellor's mother and your friend is Anna Chancellor daughter
Unless you remember anyone having a time machine around 2004 in which case that
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(October 10, 2024 08:30 PM)
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I was trying to find a nice way to talk about the haircut Bobby. Blondie, Her from Goldfrapp, Sia, Jodie Foster in The Accused, but there just isn't a reasonable enough away to go about it
I think you pinned the tail on the donkey with Myra Hindley
As for the woollen jumper lady with the fake band merch (Our right) I thought she looked like Anna Chancellor. Now it is possible that that woman is Anna Chancellor's mother and your friend is Anna Chancellor daughter
Unless you remember anyone having a time machine around 2004 in which case that
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possible Bobby
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No I don’t think that her mother is an actress…that said my friend is from Essex and I don’t know who her mother is.
It does seem like a more modern thing to do though doesn’t it. I mean who in 1963 ever attended gigs in clothing with the name of the band/artist on.
It is likely that somebody travelled through time, bought period clothing to blend in, noticed that there was a local concert by The Beatles as they were just taking off and thought ‘chance of a lifetime, I HAVE to go to this!!’ Altered their clothing not thinking of how much it would clash and then attended the convert before going back to their own time. Spot on or what.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(October 10, 2024 08:44 PM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
No I don’t think that her mother is an actress…that said my friend is from Essex and I don’t know who her mother is.
It does seem like a more modern thing to do though doesn’t it. I mean who in 1963 ever attended gigs in clothing with the name of the band/artist on.
It is likely that somebody travelled through time, bought period clothing to blend in, noticed that there was a local concert by The Beatles as they were just taking off and thought ‘chance of a lifetime, I HAVE to go to this!!’ Altered their clothing not thinking of how much it would clash and then attended the convert before going back to their own time. Spot on or what.
It is a spot on idea Bobby but I think it's darker than that
I think that the inventor of band merch, Henry G. Saperstein, actually was an emissary of a real life equivalent of something like Whirlygrig. Their job was to go back in time and promote merchandise at concerts with the idea of it only being able to be bought at concerts. Anyone with a t-shirt of cap of a band they like but it's a fake or not the latest one gets ostracised from the main fans of that band/artist and they go into a glum place.
The whole idea of this is at some point in the future a wonderful band/artist will appear and unify the world in peaceful and celebratory harmony and whoever this evil entity is will starve to their death
But your story works just as well too Bobby
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(October 11, 2024 12:00 PM)
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It is a spot on idea Bobby but I think it's darker than that
I think that the inventor of band merch, Henry G. Saperstein, actually was an emissary of a real life equivalent of something like Whirlygrig. Their job was to go back in time and promote merchandise at concerts with the idea of it only being able to be bought at concerts. Anyone with a t-shirt of cap of a band they like but it's a fake or not the latest one gets ostracised from the main fans of that band/artist and they go into a glum place.
The whole idea of this is at some point in the future a wonderful band/artist will appear and unify the world in peaceful and celebratory harmony and whoever this evil entity is will starve to their death
But your story works just as well too Bobby
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Well whichever story we go with, it’s clear that girl is a time traveller as well as the two in front with their ‘period clothing’ straight from a BBC costume rack all identical. Who took this picture do we know? Well RUMBLED!!!
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(October 11, 2024 12:20 PM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
Well whichever story we go with, it’s clear that girl is a time traveller as well as the two in front with their ‘period clothing’ straight from a BBC costume rack all identical. Who took this picture do we know? Well RUMBLED!!!
The photograph was taken by 'PA' and they must be 89 years old now Bobby, and still working
You can
see a collection of their photographs just now
with some recent ones in Newcastle an Glasgow, so they are from around our end
It's clear that there is some sort of time travelling tomfoolery going on here Bobby, and the BBC's costume department is in on it!
Well, it's rumbled now (As you say) but we've got to unrumble this calamity and get everything set straight to make sure that the timeline does fall off the dwindle
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(October 11, 2024 12:36 PM)
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The photograph was taken by 'PA' and they must be 89 years old now Bobby, and still working
You can
see a collection of their photographs just now
with some recent ones in Newcastle an Glasgow, so they are from around our end
It's clear that there is some sort of time travelling tomfoolery going on here Bobby, and the BBC's costume department is in on it!
Well, it's rumbled now (As you say) but we've got to unrumble this calamity and get everything set straight to make sure that the timeline does fall off the dwindle
How about we both pen a quick Super Capaldo episode on it and these women can be Sally Strawberry and friends. It would make for a much better Beatles related episode of Who than RTD did with that trannie. A PROPER bit of Beatles Who.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(October 11, 2024 12:53 PM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
How about we both pen a quick Super Capaldo episode on it and these women can be Sally Strawberry and friends. It would make for a much better Beatles related episode of Who than RTD did with that trannie. A PROPER bit of Beatles Who.
Well, we could have our gang show up at the end of 1963 for a Christmas special. Through a variety of giddy pranks with The Beatles we could get everything sorted out and rewrite history making that previous Beatles episode gone like that Victorian giant Cyberman
During the course of our story a blackhole type thing appears and Sally Strawberry is almost sucked into it but Super Capaldo and and The Beatles saw her standing there and all hold onto her hand real tight.
Various nods and gags can be made along the way but ultimately Sally is a bit stretched and it takes her a little while to go back to her normal size and shape
The Beatles then head off to the US and Canada where they do their tour there. Happy days for everyone!
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(October 12, 2024 10:50 AM)
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Well, we could have our gang show up at the end of 1963 for a Christmas special. Through a variety of giddy pranks with The Beatles we could get everything sorted out and rewrite history making that previous Beatles episode gone like that Victorian giant Cyberman
During the course of our story a blackhole type thing appears and Sally Strawberry is almost sucked into it but Super Capaldo and and The Beatles saw her standing there and all hold onto her hand real tight.
Various nods and gags can be made along the way but ultimately Sally is a bit stretched and it takes her a little while to go back to her normal size and shape
The Beatles then head off to the US and Canada where they do their tour there. Happy days for everyone!
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I like that idea and I’m going to tool with that a bit and make it into our first adventure of our new season. Something light hearted before they have to take on the Whirlygirg because things are gonna get DARK then…really dark!
Oh and guess what, we have both been getting her name wrong…it was CELIA Strawberry.
And what do you think of this video here…YOBBO’S hassling poor old Fred the weatherman who used to jump around a floating map in the Albert Dock delivering us the weather in an entertaining way…
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(October 12, 2024 04:09 PM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
I like that idea and I’m going to tool with that a bit and make it into our first adventure of our new season. Something light hearted before they have to take on the Whirlygirg because things are gonna get DARK then…really dark!
Oh and guess what, we have both been getting her name wrong…it was CELIA Strawberry.
And what do you think of this video here…YOBBO’S hassling poor old Fred the weatherman who used to jump around a floating map in the Albert Dock delivering us the weather in an entertaining way…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTYaumSfzug?si=uFv6tyQ702WIDCnv
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Well I doubt he lives on Chris Langham Road anymore Bobby
He's a way oop North nearer you guy
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(October 12, 2024 04:20 PM)
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Well I doubt he lives on Chris Langham Road anymore Bobby
He's a way oop North nearer you guy
Well we aren’t way up north, just north of Cheshire and I’ve looked up Langham Road and there are two Langham Roads in Cheshire, Stockport and Altrincham, both only 30 miles or so away give or take. They shouldn’t be harassing him anyway, poor Fred who only ever wanted to entertain us whilst giving the weather forecasts.
I’ll bet when Fred was sat with Jimmy Corkhill outside the Pumpinghouse public house with Jimmy Corkhill all these years ago and met that little boy, he had no idea what that little boy would grow up and do to him.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(October 12, 2024 04:35 PM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
Well we aren’t way up north, just north of Cheshire and I’ve looked up Langham Road and there are two Langham Roads in Cheshire, Stockport and Altrincham, both only 30 miles or so away give or take. They shouldn’t be harassing him anyway, poor Fred who only ever wanted to entertain us whilst giving the weather forecasts.
I’ll bet when Fred was sat with Jimmy Corkhill outside the Pumpinghouse public house with Jimmy Corkhill all these years ago and met that little boy, he had no idea what that little boy would grow up and do to him.
I don't actually know the details of the entire affair Bobby but for a 'big man' like Ian Brown of Stone Roses fame to put his neck out and say what he said there must be something to it all.
The idea is that he's done his time for his crime and should be left alone. And so some privacy isn't too much to ask for but people will naturally be cautious around him.
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(October 12, 2024 04:41 PM)
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I don't actually know the details of the entire affair Bobby but for a 'big man' like Ian Brown of Stone Roses fame to put his neck out and say what he said there must be something to it all.
The idea is that he's done his time for his crime and should be left alone. And so some privacy isn't too much to ask for but people will naturally be cautious around him.
I’m just wondering why that man had to let him know that he met him as a child. I suppose that a lot of people who met these disgraced celebrities when they were children must now feel quite peculiar. I can remember when Fred came to BobbyTown to do some filming for something and someone came to school saying that they had met him and that he had given him a naff paper hat.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(October 12, 2024 04:46 PM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
I’m just wondering why that man had to let him know that he met him as a child. I suppose that a lot of people who met these disgraced celebrities when they were children must now feel quite peculiar. I can remember when Fred came to BobbyTown to do some filming for something and someone came to school saying that they had met him and that he had given him a naff paper hat.
Well that man who remembers meeting him must have remembered the occasion fondly.
He should have done like I did and get a job as a waiter in a fancy café when he was in his prime. I've met all sorts of folk and had a proper laugh with them too
I met a bar manager in a pub I've started to frequent and he's done private do's for all the Doctor Who team and met and chatted with loads of them. Even got a couple of their numbers for when they come into town and need stuff sorted for them
Whereas that poor bloke probably didn't have much going on when he was younger. And that ay, when he met Fred outside that pub, was one that stayed with him for all these years
He'll be an old man one day who'll nudge up next to someone at a bar near a bus station where people alight for a transfer and tell strangers who are travelling long distances "Here, d'remember that guy who used to hop across a floating map of the UK and talk about the weather? I met him I did, twice!". Bless that poor soul
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(October 12, 2024 04:55 PM)
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Well that man who remembers meeting him must have remembered the occasion fondly.
He should have done like I did and get a job as a waiter in a fancy café when he was in his prime. I've met all sorts of folk and had a proper laugh with them too
I met a bar manager in a pub I've started to frequent and he's done private do's for all the Doctor Who team and met and chatted with loads of them. Even got a couple of their numbers for when they come into town and need stuff sorted for them
Whereas that poor bloke probably didn't have much going on when he was younger. And that ay, when he met Fred outside that pub, was one that stayed with him for all these years
He'll be an old man one day who'll nudge up next to someone at a bar near a bus station where people alight for a transfer and tell strangers who are travelling long distances "Here, d'remember that guy who used to hop across a floating map of the UK and talk about the weather? I met him I did, twice!". Bless that poor soul
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He met Jimmy Corkhill too who he seems to think is a real person and not an actor named Dean Sullivan (RIP). I bet it was double the joy for him that day, two people off ‘the telly’.
So by stuff sorted out do you mean drugs? OH and did I ever tell you about when I saw Michael French at the multiplex right here in Bobbytown?
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(October 12, 2024 04:59 PM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
He met Jimmy Corkhill too who he seems to think is a real person and not an actor named Dean Sullivan (RIP). I bet it was double the joy for him that day, two people off ‘the telly’.
So by stuff sorted out do you mean drugs? OH and did I ever tell you about when I saw Michael French at the multiplex right here in Bobbytown?
I always thought Jimmy Corkhill was Sinbad. I still did until you just told me otherwise and I had to look him up
I didn't get into the specifics about 'sorted out' but it could mean drugs or it could mean booking a place and making sure there was food and drinks and people to serve them.
Dean Wick visited Bobbytown?!
That must be a great tale. I'm looking forward to hearing it
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(October 12, 2024 05:11 PM)
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I always thought Jimmy Corkhill was Sinbad. I still did until you just told me otherwise and I had to look him up
I didn't get into the specifics about 'sorted out' but it could mean drugs or it could mean booking a place and making sure there was food and drinks and people to serve them.
Dean Wick visited Bobbytown?!
That must be a great tale. I'm looking forward to hearing it
No DAVID wicks. Well this is going back quite some years now but myself and some friends were inside the multiplex (the old one not the new one) and a friend of mine said to me ‘you watch EastEnders don’t you Bobby? Is that who is it over there? David is it?’ and I looked over and there was a tall gentleman buying popcorn and drinks. Anyway after paying he started to walk away towards the screens. He looked in my direction, noticed me staring and then quickly looked away and rushed on towards the screens as he had noticed that I had clocked him.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(October 12, 2024 05:53 PM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
No DAVID wicks. Well this is going back quite some years now but myself and some friends were inside the multiplex (the old one not the new one) and a friend of mine said to me ‘you watch EastEnders don’t you Bobby? Is that who is it over there? David is it?’ and I looked over and there was a tall gentleman buying popcorn and drinks. Anyway after paying he started to walk away towards the screens. He looked in my direction, noticed me staring and then quickly looked away and rushed on towards the screens as he had noticed that I had clocked him.
What movie was he going to see?
And wht movie were you going to see?
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(October 12, 2024 06:49 PM)
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What movie was he going to see?
And wht movie were you going to see?
I don’t know what he was seeing and I can’t remember now what we saw, but I do know that he was in the area at the time filming a program called Born n Bred, so it wasn’t as random as it sounds.
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