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I'm sorry, but this movie was just a flop, even with a high profile cast. I love Lim Soo Jeong but the movie was terribl

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    akizetafive — 17 years ago(January 12, 2009 06:03 PM)

    The purpose of life is love and they make love. Hes her lifetime technician and she needs him beside her forever.
    That's a lovely way of putting it, Henrique.

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      Zarathustras_Crown — 16 years ago(January 18, 2010 06:12 PM)

      I'm pretty sure they're nakedbefore he says something about "let's take off these wet socks at least" and then their socks are gone and after an exchange he says "the socks aren't the only thing wet" or something and they look at each other and it cuts away with her removing the bandage he'd put on. I'm pretty sure he was implying "hey, our clothes are wet too, let's get out of them", but I could never quite see if they were having sex after that or simply nakedI figured they were having sex and that would make sense to end it then. If they get together and make love, what else is there? I mean it's clear no one's getting better, they're insane and that's not changing so anything after that would have been sort of tacked on I think.
      +Charos+
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      who thought themselves good because
      they had no claws."

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        orochimaru119 — 18 years ago(May 08, 2007 09:59 PM)

        the end
        Her diet has been sustained .Under the tent,they eat many kind of things,and she cares about foods which could get wet in the rain.So,that mean,she has been saved and changed successfully by him.
        What'more,they are both released,that mean thay are not real mental disorder any longer ,even though they are still strange.She DOES find the significance of existencejust live in the world , together with him!!!
        Two people who were discarded and lack of love,have found each other.and

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          steeboy — 18 years ago(May 25, 2007 04:10 PM)

          I think that one of the problems for this movie is that the people that are going to see it are fans of the singer RAIN (which are teenage girls or so I've heard) and fans of the director, which is why I have seen it twice already.
          The thing is that Park Chan Wook's previous film have been darker, more violent, thrillers or flashy dramas ie. more mainstream, and the mainstream public are usually not very wellbright or open minded. When they see a film that is very complex, don't understand it or just think is too weird, alot of the time they just say that the film is crap, so I don't think theres any hope relying on the fifteen year old girls flocking to see it either.(I know it got pulled from the cinemas in Korea after a couple of weeks, word of mouth spreads fast)
          I am a little dissaponted with the film too I have to say. Having seen it already I watched it a second time for some hope that everything would "click into place" (a phrase I have used alot ever since I saw Eternal Sunshine for the second time, which I think is the most beautifully poetic film ever) but nothing happened. It start off well enough but breaks down in the middle and never really recovers after that. It has a very low key ending which will not sit well with the average viewer. It just seems to lack any real spark though there are some funny moments mainly involving the apologetic patient.
          I really wanted to love it but sadly for me I think it's only good enough.

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            awakeninggradually — 18 years ago(June 13, 2007 04:54 PM)

            it wasn't a comedy, certainly not a romantic comedy for that matter. Y'know movies can still be good without having to conform to that western concept: everything must be classified to a Genre.
            It was nowhere near as good as Oldboy but I thought it was pretty decent. I loved the overhead style during the second cyborg shooting scene.

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                badaboum — 17 years ago(June 12, 2008 05:54 PM)

                I didn't now about Rain before and I forgot that it was a film by Park, although that's what first brought my attention to this film. In addition, the DVD cover looked so silly, I just hadn't any big expectations.
                But I really liked it! Such a beautiful film, and so funny! It's not that fast paced, so some might think it's boring, but there were so many suprising and ridiculous things happening, I didn't feel bored at all.
                I don't think I understood all of it's complexity, but all in all the film just felt good :).

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                    ryuhei_kitamura — 18 years ago(October 30, 2007 02:40 PM)

                    I wasn't disappointed but definitely pretty confused. When confusion takes over and I can't make sense of what I see I try to follow the movie on a more emotional level and from that point of view, I think the film works pretty well. Park Chan-Wook's films are generally so full of symbols and metaphors that they have to be seen many times to be deciphered; until then, I will enjoy the film as a beautifully rendered/ shot poem about the existential topics in life.

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                        evenfiel — 18 years ago(February 02, 2008 03:33 PM)

                        I didn't even see the ending because I was asleep. What a boring movie

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                          Brian779-81 — 18 years ago(February 22, 2008 08:04 AM)

                          Wow, look at all the people spewing hate at at something because they didn't understand it.
                          Here's my very simple break-down on the ending; they went looking for thunder storm and found a rainbow.
                          If that doesn't mean anything to you, well you have my pity.

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                            h-vadim — 18 years ago(March 10, 2008 06:40 AM)

                            The closest to describe this movie:
                            "Park Chan-Wook's arrogant creative masturbation"

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                              dizbuster — 18 years ago(March 16, 2008 06:39 PM)

                              My two cents on "Cyborg" (which I just saw today): It's cute, original, and even kind of
                              dense
                              , but despite that I found it to be pretty much "fluff." Dense, but not by any means Deep.

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                                hana_2007 — 18 years ago(March 27, 2008 09:50 PM)

                                I thought this was a great movie. One of the oddest I've ever seen.
                                If you watch the end- Rain puts a wine bottle cork on the end of the antenna so they won't actually be struck by lightning.
                                The entire movie is about being able to accept someone for their flaws & for their weird quirkiness. Yes, since they were in a psyche ward, their flaws were a bit more intense, but still, it's the general idea.
                                And the idea that we are all trying to figure out the purpose of our existence.
                                In the end- where she is looking to destroy herself- she actually starts living life.

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                                  agracru — 18 years ago(March 31, 2008 07:33 AM)

                                  "Park Chan-Wook's arrogant creative masturbation"
                                  This is a statement best reserved for experimental art films, not fluffy romantic comedies about crazy people. I grant that the overall tone of the film, and much of the content, is bizarre, but you can't tell a movie from the perspective of a person who thinks she is a cyborg without it being just a tad odd, especially when you're leaping between that character's delusions and the real world. (Not to mention the delusions of the man courting the lead and the delusions of the rest of the psyche-ward lifers.)
                                  But this is at it's core a rom-com, and a pretty good one at that. I did come away from it feeling like something was missing. For me, it was brevity. The movie didn't need to be just South of 2 hours. Some judicious editing would have made it move a lot faster, and this is where I'd agree that Park displays an indulgence that verges on pretension.

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                                      Zarathustras_Crown — 16 years ago(January 24, 2010 07:15 AM)

                                      So, you're complaining about a movie you admit outrightly you never even saw? I mean, like the movie or not, making comments about it when you've never seen the key portion of the film seems like it would be pretty counterproductive.
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                                      who thought themselves good because
                                      they had no claws."

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                                        Crown_vic_7 — 13 years ago(October 08, 2012 07:48 AM)

                                        I agree it was a boring film. I understood it and it has originality and i wouldnt say it a bad film but its just not my cup of tea. Congrats on everyone who enjoyed it though.

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                                          pumakawa — 17 years ago(May 13, 2008 11:22 AM)

                                          Take the movie for what it is, stop comparing to PCW's previous work!
                                          Visually, the film is a masterpiece. It's imaginative, poetic, colorful, and funny. In fact, it's one of the funniest korean films I have seen. Every scene is suprising, you never know what to expect because the film is not plot-oriented (which is probably why most viewers didn't like it). After the scene where the mythomaniac lengthily explains every characters' background, only to be refuted in 2 seconds by the doctor, I knew I had to "let go" and just enjoy the ride. I mean, that scene clearly set the tone, how could you expect a "logical" plot after this? It was obvious that PCW wanted the film to be more about the characters, and thus the theme of mental disorder. If anything this film is a truly remarkable depiction of schizophrenia, as it really takes us inside the schizophrenic mind (at the expense of logical plot development, but that was a price to pay).
                                          Saibogujiman Kwenchana is, without doubt, a Park Chan-Wook film. His signature is all over the place, how can fans of the revenge trilogy dismiss it so dryly is beyond me.

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