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  3. I'm sorry, but this movie was just a flop, even with a high profile cast. I love Lim Soo Jeong but the movie was terribl

I'm sorry, but this movie was just a flop, even with a high profile cast. I love Lim Soo Jeong but the movie was terribl

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      ryuhei_kitamura — 18 years ago(October 30, 2007 02:40 PM)

      I wasn't disappointed but definitely pretty confused. When confusion takes over and I can't make sense of what I see I try to follow the movie on a more emotional level and from that point of view, I think the film works pretty well. Park Chan-Wook's films are generally so full of symbols and metaphors that they have to be seen many times to be deciphered; until then, I will enjoy the film as a beautifully rendered/ shot poem about the existential topics in life.

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          evenfiel — 18 years ago(February 02, 2008 03:33 PM)

          I didn't even see the ending because I was asleep. What a boring movie

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            Brian779-81 — 18 years ago(February 22, 2008 08:04 AM)

            Wow, look at all the people spewing hate at at something because they didn't understand it.
            Here's my very simple break-down on the ending; they went looking for thunder storm and found a rainbow.
            If that doesn't mean anything to you, well you have my pity.

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              h-vadim — 18 years ago(March 10, 2008 06:40 AM)

              The closest to describe this movie:
              "Park Chan-Wook's arrogant creative masturbation"

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                dizbuster — 18 years ago(March 16, 2008 06:39 PM)

                My two cents on "Cyborg" (which I just saw today): It's cute, original, and even kind of
                dense
                , but despite that I found it to be pretty much "fluff." Dense, but not by any means Deep.

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                  hana_2007 — 18 years ago(March 27, 2008 09:50 PM)

                  I thought this was a great movie. One of the oddest I've ever seen.
                  If you watch the end- Rain puts a wine bottle cork on the end of the antenna so they won't actually be struck by lightning.
                  The entire movie is about being able to accept someone for their flaws & for their weird quirkiness. Yes, since they were in a psyche ward, their flaws were a bit more intense, but still, it's the general idea.
                  And the idea that we are all trying to figure out the purpose of our existence.
                  In the end- where she is looking to destroy herself- she actually starts living life.

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                    agracru — 18 years ago(March 31, 2008 07:33 AM)

                    "Park Chan-Wook's arrogant creative masturbation"
                    This is a statement best reserved for experimental art films, not fluffy romantic comedies about crazy people. I grant that the overall tone of the film, and much of the content, is bizarre, but you can't tell a movie from the perspective of a person who thinks she is a cyborg without it being just a tad odd, especially when you're leaping between that character's delusions and the real world. (Not to mention the delusions of the man courting the lead and the delusions of the rest of the psyche-ward lifers.)
                    But this is at it's core a rom-com, and a pretty good one at that. I did come away from it feeling like something was missing. For me, it was brevity. The movie didn't need to be just South of 2 hours. Some judicious editing would have made it move a lot faster, and this is where I'd agree that Park displays an indulgence that verges on pretension.

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                        Zarathustras_Crown — 16 years ago(January 24, 2010 07:15 AM)

                        So, you're complaining about a movie you admit outrightly you never even saw? I mean, like the movie or not, making comments about it when you've never seen the key portion of the film seems like it would be pretty counterproductive.
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                          Crown_vic_7 — 13 years ago(October 08, 2012 07:48 AM)

                          I agree it was a boring film. I understood it and it has originality and i wouldnt say it a bad film but its just not my cup of tea. Congrats on everyone who enjoyed it though.

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                            pumakawa — 17 years ago(May 13, 2008 11:22 AM)

                            Take the movie for what it is, stop comparing to PCW's previous work!
                            Visually, the film is a masterpiece. It's imaginative, poetic, colorful, and funny. In fact, it's one of the funniest korean films I have seen. Every scene is suprising, you never know what to expect because the film is not plot-oriented (which is probably why most viewers didn't like it). After the scene where the mythomaniac lengthily explains every characters' background, only to be refuted in 2 seconds by the doctor, I knew I had to "let go" and just enjoy the ride. I mean, that scene clearly set the tone, how could you expect a "logical" plot after this? It was obvious that PCW wanted the film to be more about the characters, and thus the theme of mental disorder. If anything this film is a truly remarkable depiction of schizophrenia, as it really takes us inside the schizophrenic mind (at the expense of logical plot development, but that was a price to pay).
                            Saibogujiman Kwenchana is, without doubt, a Park Chan-Wook film. His signature is all over the place, how can fans of the revenge trilogy dismiss it so dryly is beyond me.

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                                theallnewmatthewstarrs — 17 years ago(May 15, 2008 06:07 PM)

                                i loved this film completely, i also loved his other films you know why? because i love beautiful film making regardless of the genre.
                                plus i had no idea who rain was before i saw this.

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                                  buchowski — 17 years ago(August 14, 2008 06:02 PM)

                                  i was also super dissapointed. oldboy got me watching korean movies
                                  That says it all. Do you think every Korean movie is going to be similar to Oldboy? This movie was fantastic.
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                                    jets83 — 17 years ago(June 02, 2008 05:46 PM)

                                    I personally thought this was a great film. I knew it wasn't going to be anything like the revenge trilogy so maybe that helped make me enjoy it better. It was really beautiful. I loved the way some of the folks on page two of this thread explained the ending. Works for me. I love Park's visionary style. It's perfect.

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                                      tom_wow — 17 years ago(June 27, 2008 02:03 AM)

                                      yeah I mean, its almost as if the director wanted to do something different! I mean, hello! we don't want different, we want the same thing we saw last time please, what the hell was this artsy crap. Dolts.
                                      The film was brilliant.

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                                        Banana_Flavoured_Pants — 17 years ago(December 01, 2008 01:47 PM)

                                        That's what I don't get, even in the Vengeance trilogy two of the films were artsy crap so why is it a shock for people to see it here? This was the most intelligent, charming, thought-provoking rom-com I've ever seen. Just because it doesn't revolve around murder doesn't make it suck, and it's no less or more complicated than the Vengence trilogy; the meaning of the story is the same one that's been preached throughout the film.
                                        I think it's the case the vengeance resonates more clearly with people than denial.

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                                          blacksword83 — 17 years ago(July 25, 2008 08:22 AM)

                                          This movie was beautiful, moving and touching.
                                          Just because apes like you don't understand something doesn't make it terrible.

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