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    grinch031 — 15 years ago(December 14, 2010 04:47 AM)

    Just watched this movie the other day. First off there's some pretty ignorant comments on this thread. A woman does have the right to make out with a guy and change her mind about going all the way. There's a difference between criminal and stupid. This character was stupid and in a way asking to get raped/murdered by going off in the woods in a strange country with a guy she doesn't know. Just because she went with him and kissed him, doesn't make it right for him to assault her, but she left herself vulnerable. If I walk into the inner city to a bad neighborhood with cash strapped to me over my clothes and get robbed, its because of my own stupidity. Its still a crime, but this is not a perfect world and one needs to protect themselves and make smart decisions.
    And when I watched this scene, I didn't even get the impression he was going to rape her. I saw him rough her up a little because he was frustrated that she changed her mind, but then after her first reaction it looks like he wanted to calm things down. But she continued to freak out and hit him to death with the stick, which to me was way overboard and worthy of criminal charges (manslaughter?). I think the writers wanted us to believe that she overreacted as well, which to me implies he wasn't going to rape her. But then finding out he has a history of sexual assault, that does change our perception of the events a little.

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        d98mp — 15 years ago(January 01, 2011 05:44 PM)

        No. Carlos was acting in a very stupid way, but you have no right to kill people for that. It was not self defense, it was either murder or manslaughter. (To beat a defenseless and disabled person seems more like murder than manslaughter.)
        I find it disturbing that she got away with it and also that it somehow becomes justified (in the movie and here at the board). Self defense does not imply the right to kill people who scare you.

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            sutilantimppa — 15 years ago(January 06, 2011 04:02 AM)

            It was unnecessary murder. Carlos was already down and helpless. In the end of the movie, there is three bad guys (two girls) loose.

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              Elouai — 14 years ago(November 05, 2011 09:45 PM)

              Her self defense was totally justified, but why did she KEEP hitting him? I know she was panicked, but I thought she had bashed him enough the first few times. Even though if was still conscious, he had collapsed and she could have just ran.
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                ecuelles — 14 years ago(February 07, 2012 01:34 AM)

                Because she was a nuttcase and Carlos didn't realize he was dealing with a nuttcase. He was thinking they were still having fun when she was already completely panicked. Case of some bad miscommunication.
                I found it a really annoying and unrealistic scene. The fact that he later turned out to be a drugsdealer and a sexoffender didn't change anything. She at first totally wanted him and she didn't know he was a criminal when she killed him. She obviously was a very disturbed woman with some kind of violence in her past, hence her panick and agression. It really didn't get why she lied about it later on, especially with Abby being tortured. again really troubled person.
                I felt really sorry for Abby and was happy she came out alive and with money in her pocket.

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                  AfroGeek — 14 years ago(April 02, 2012 12:20 PM)

                  I just watched this last night. Note that the US embassy guys tell her that Carlos had a history of sexual assault. She was going to get raped, but she did kill him after he was incapacitated.

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                    robatmuskoka — 13 years ago(November 18, 2012 06:11 PM)

                    when the blood was pouring out of his head and he sortof falling over she should've stopped. he was beep at that point
                    and yes i think she was justified until that point

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                      JurijFedorov — 10 years ago(March 10, 2016 05:43 AM)

                      The first 3 hits were alright and in self defence. But the last few blows were clearly not needed and she was trying to kill him. She hit a man in the head with a huge stick several times. But all in all I don't know what else she could have done. She could have hit him a few times and ran away. But he could have catched up with her over time I think. He could easily have found her by following the tracks she left behind. It's a lose, lose situation.

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