Is this the only show worth watching twice?
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jcisneros405 — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 06:17 AM)
Agree with The Shield. Another show that you love watching their journey over the course of a long show run just to see how it all explodes in the end. Only other show I can think of that's near the same calibur of Breaking Bad in terms of acting, writing, characterization, and intense action.
Only other shows I can think of that are likely to hold your interest the way The Shield or Breaking Bad did would be Oz. -
tdavid564 — 9 years ago(June 21, 2016 12:07 PM)
You should do well with
The Shield
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IMO,it's worth it just to watch Michael Chiklis and Walton Goggins work,but that's far from the only reason.
It has a slump or two in spots,but I'll let you be the judge of that.
Great show overall.
Why so serious? -
djjazzyerf-672-364820 — 9 years ago(June 23, 2016 11:24 AM)
This is honestly one of the greatest shows I have ever watched. If you are simply looking for a quality show, and not concerned so much about the genre, definitely The Sopranos, Mad Men, and Penny Dreadful. I am only going by acting, story, and writing. These are my top favorite shows. I've never seen GoT, but plan to in the near future.
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lindalindgren — 9 years ago(June 24, 2016 03:09 AM)
Of the one you mentioned, I've watched Penny Dreadful, and I like it! But it's not a breaking bad good series
I really love Fringe, it was my favorite before watching this. And I love X-files. But they are nothing compared to BB. I feel like I'm never going to watch something like this ever again!
A tip for you all. It's a movie, and not a serie. "Trade". It's a movie that has that breaking bad-feeling. It's about a Mexican boy whose sister gets kidnapped by the cartel, and he goes looking for her, trying to get her back. Really good movie, not the best, that feels somehow like happening in the breaking bad-universe. It's with Kevin Kline, and I just kept thinking: He should really have been in some role in breaking bad! The story would of fit perfectly in any of the seasons! -
Springheel_Jack — 9 years ago(June 27, 2016 09:31 AM)
One can only decide for themselves which shows they liked well enough to give them another go. When talking about somewhat-objective worthiness, I think of shows where a second round adds to the viewing experience. Shows, where you can always discover more. Shows, where you can evaluate scenes and characters and storylines on different levels and coming from different viewpoints, because they are layered and complex.
Personally, I watched multiple shows on more than one occassion, but no rewatch was as fulfilling as those of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel". Both of them managed to surprise me several times, for I was expecting one thing (e.g. a preference or a feeling), but suddenly getting another.
Regarding "Breaking Bad", I've only seen it once and have no desire to watch it a second time. I liked it well enough, but am not among those, who are head-over-heels in love with it. I can probably think of about fifty shows I prefer over it - including "Better Call Saul", which - in the very least - doesn't have two regular characters as annoying as Jesse and Walt Jr., as well as a more likeable lead.
Talking about great tv shows in general, I can understand anybody that calls "The Wire" the best series in existence. - And speaking of 'time', my personal favourite would probably be "Doctor Who" (starting from 2005). The 11th-Doctor-era especially is another example for something that may very well be watched a second time - if only because it can be difficult to fully grasp the storytelling in one go. It may on occassion appear weak and flawed, but it's actually highly ambitious and exceptional.
In terms of 'must-see tv' perhaps nothing will ever reach the heights of "Babylon 5". Tremendous storytelling that no one interested in great television should miss out on.
Since several of my mentions are 'genre' and include effects (both special make-up and CGI), potential viewers should remind themselves, that these shows are somewhat old ("Doctor Who" still airs, but began production twelve years ago with basically no budget) and cannot be compared to current production standards (I actually prefer the older looks most of the time - but that's just me). So be prepared.
Finally, since it's been mentioned and I just finished it myself, "Penny Dreadful" isn't one of my 'alltime mega-favourites', but I liked it very much. The cast was phenomenal with Eva Green perhaps giving the best acting performance anyone has ever given on a television series.
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heisenberg12 — 9 years ago(June 27, 2016 01:32 PM)
"Better Call Saul", which - in the very least - doesn't have two regular characters as annoying as Jesse and Walt Jr., as well as a more likeable lead.
What a joke of a statement.
Chuck is more annoying than any combination of Jesse and Walt Jr. (and add a few others from BB).Chuck is unredeemable in any way. Not only is he an unlikable regular character, he is a MAIN character. He gets far more screen time and storyline than Walt Jr. and in a way Jesse since Jesse didn't influence Walt the dominant way Chuck can influence Saul. Chuck's character's annoyance can equal a combination of Jesse and Walt Jr. if you find them annoying at all. The other unlikable annoying character is the blonde haired lawyer guy (I don't even remember his name at this point, lol).
The electrosensitivity is a character in itself in Better Call Saul, like the scenery in Breaking Bad. Although it is connected to Chuck and an extension of his character, it actually has a life of its own. Chuck and the electrosensitivity storyline are enough to trump the two characters you mention alone.
Jimmy is a more "likable" lead than Walt? Lol. That's so funny I won't take it seriously. But I guess it depends on how one looks at it and what they find likable. For me, once Jimmy did the things he did to get fired on purpose from Davis and Main (didn't flush the toilet, played that annoying instrument, etc) he became completely unlikable (although I did enjoy that montage), not to mention the stuff he tried to pull off with the skateboarders and the scams he runs on ordinary people like he's still a teenager. Personally, I don't even think that the two are comparable at all, especially because Jimmy isn't even Saul at this point. As Jimmy, he is nowhere near as compelling and likable as Walt.
Jimmy is an a-hole just because he is an a-hole right from the start. There is no reason to truly sympathize with his illegal activities, whereas Walt right from the start is able to be sympathized with due to a barrage of bad circumstances that happen out of his own will, especially terminal lung cancer. Walt has an understandable trying circumstance that explains why he is fed up with life and breaks bad, whereas Jimmy always was that way and does it just to be a jerk (he's been "slippin jimmy" since high school or earlier). Whereas Walt was a renown chemist, Jimmy has always been a screw up (a chimp with a machine gun with a law degree). And this is not to mention that although Odenkirk does his best, he isn't even 50% as good of an actor as Cranston.
As for your other personal choices, I find them somewhat laughable that you think they are more rewatchable than Breaking Bad. Basically, I wouldn't take your opinion seriously, all due respect.
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lindalindgren — 9 years ago(June 27, 2016 04:01 PM)
I both disagree and agree. I think chuck Is very, very annoying yes. But I think that it fits perfectly in the series! And I really love BCS. I think it's the best show on tv right now (and no, I haven't seen TWD or GoT).
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lindalindgren — 9 years ago(June 27, 2016 04:33 PM)
No, you're absolutely right there! Of course it's not as good as BB! Anyone who says that haven't watched BB
But you confirmed exactly what I said when you said "not yet".
It has potential!
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Springheel_Jack — 9 years ago(June 29, 2016 08:16 PM)
What a joke of a statement.
Chuck is more annoying than any combination of Jesse and Walt Jr. (and add a few others from BB).Chuck is unredeemable in any way. Not only is he an unlikable regular character, he is a MAIN character. He gets far more screen time and storyline than Walt Jr. and in a way Jesse since Jesse didn't influence Walt the dominant way Chuck can influence Saul. Chuck's character's annoyance can equal a combination of Jesse and Walt Jr. if you find them annoying at all. The other unlikable annoying character is the blonde haired lawyer guy (I don't even remember his name at this point, lol).
First of all, though it is not clearly constructed as such, common sense should tell everybody that the quoted paragraph was not a statement but an opinion.
Secondly, I cannot agree that Chuck is more annoying than the two characters from "Breaking Bad". One might describe him as 'annoying' (I personally am neither annoyed by him, nor surprised, if other people are) and he most certainly makes it quite difficult to feel any kind of sympathy for him. But I don't cringe every time he appears on the screen (Walt Jr.) or due to his tendency to royally beep things up (Jesse).
You might be right in calling Chuck "unredeemable", but aren't these two shows full of characters that could be labeled like this? Fan-favourites like Walter, Jesse or Gus have both directly murdered people and mass-produced toxic, addicting material, that will claim even more life down the line. What exactly has Chuck done when compared to this? Been an beep to his brother (somewhat understandably considering what we've learned about their relationships with their parents)? Apparently Jimmy stole - I think - fourteen grand from their father - playing a big part in the old man losing his store. If Chuck is unredeemable because he didn't hire Jimmy as a lawyer and now
might
use his tape recording against him, then what is Jimmy, who's done things that are atleast equally as questionable?
The electrosensitivity is a character in itself in Better Call Saul, like the scenery in Breaking Bad. Although it is connected to Chuck and an extension of his character, it actually has a life of its own. Chuck and the electrosensitivity storyline are enough to trump the two characters you mention alone.
I'm not quite sure how the electrosensitivity is supposed to be its own character.
I'm also not quite sure why you quote and answer my opinion with something, that basically says: "You're wrong, because
Lo and behold!
here is MY opinion!"
Jimmy is a more "likable" lead than Walt? Lol. That's so funny I won't take it seriously. But I guess it depends on how one looks at it and what they find likable. For me, once Jimmy did the things he did to get fired on purpose from Davis and Main (didn't flush the toilet, played that annoying instrument, etc) he became completely unlikable (although I did enjoy that montage), not to mention the stuff he tried to pull off with the skateboarders and the scams he runs on ordinary people like he's still a teenager. Personally, I don't even think that the two are comparable at all, especially because Jimmy isn't even Saul at this point. As Jimmy, he is nowhere near as compelling and likable as Walt.
Again, Jimmy didn't flush the toilet while Walter went around killing people. If you cannot understand why one might find it easier to develop sympathies for the former there might be something wrong with you.
Apart from
what
they do, there's also the factor of
how
they do it. Personally, I simply like Jimmy's style (appearance, mannerisms, etc.) better than Walt's (I also have a thing for con artists.)
Even though it is easier to feel sympathy towards someone if they have comprehensible motivation and perform comprehensible actions, being likeable and being compelling are two VERY different things.
Jimmy is an a-hole just because he is an a-hole right from the start. There is no reason to truly sympathize with his illegal activities, whereas Walt right from the start is able to be sympathized with due to a barrage of bad circumstances that happen out of his own will, especially terminal lung cancer. Walt has an understandable trying circumstance that explains why he is fed up with life and breaks bad, whereas Jimmy always was that way and does it just to be a jerk (he's been "slippin jimmy" since high school or earlier). Whereas Walt was a renown chemist, Jimmy has always been a screw up (a chimp with a machine gun with a law degree).
It is true that the main reason to sympathize with Jimmy - despite all the heelish moves he pulled - is the fact that he happens to be the protagonist of story. However the same applies to Walt. I honestly couldn't care less about his cancer. If you decide to cook and sell F'N meth, your excuses are irrelevant. If you are a school teacher, working with kids, having kids of your OWN, you are quite a special kind of scum if you can still justify the production of such a drug to your self.
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