So wait.you want preferential treatment cuz you wear a special costume? LOL come onthey are doing their job so let them
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TtankerT — 16 years ago(October 30, 2009 08:08 PM)
OK now look I understand this movie was based on an actual event, I understand a Marine did die and LtCol Mike Strobl of the Marines did escort his body home.
Now after saying that
IT IS A MOVIEquit bashing the "screener" who is in fact an actor playing a role
I understand LtCol Mike Strobl (who was played by Kevin Bacon, Mr Bacon who shocking as it is, is an actor) but the Real Strobl did write about his travels escorting the body of PFC Chance Phelps home, I highly doubt he wrote about the TSA agent being a dick
Now again as a former TSA agent I will tell you when standing next to the metal detector having people go through..trust me you turn off who you are because of the amount of beep you hear. "Oh in Florida they didn't make me take off my shoes." "I didn't have to take off my jacket at LAX." all of that is beep
If I had been the screener I'd of done the same thing, because it is easy to get your hands on replica uniforms of all the services, just because someone shows up in military uniform doesn't mean they should go though. What you think it should be that anyone that shows up and has a ticket and wearing a military uniform should just go past the security checkpoint and collect 200 dollers, don'tcha think if that were the way it was, that any foreign and domestic beep who wanted to cause harm would use that?
Now from what I remember from the movie because its been awhile since I seen it, it goes that Strobl(Mr. Bacon) didn't have Phelps' belongings go though the X-Ray, The screener told him it had to go though,Strobl said no,than the screener called for a bag check, screener than said that Strobl's jacket had to go though because of all the medal, in which Strobl said he wouldn't take it off becuase it would disrespect the uniform (from which I completely understand) and Strobl asked for a private screening in which he gotnow at no point did the TSA agent had he been a real person and it actually happened (now again I know PFC Phelps did die and I know LtCol Mike Strobl did escort his body home) I'm talking about this scene of the movie, he did step by step what he should have done.
Now for a third time I understand that PFC Phelps did die and LtCol Mike Strobl did escort his body home, however the movie was, if I remember correctly, it was titled based on actual events, which means that the story is real, just a few elements here and there are changed to make the movie more emotional.
Which mean the director changed a few things, could be the director doesn't like the TSA and wanted to take a few jabs at them.
Point is not about the agent but about unfortuntly how some of our service members are coming home.
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Jake_Zero — 16 years ago(November 20, 2009 07:46 AM)
This is just a general statement, but really, simply just putting on a uniform doesn't make you divine.
Yes, you volunteered for a tough job, but how's about waiting to be treated special instead of demanding it?
The TSA has procedures. You'd think that military personnel would understand procedures, even the ones that sound stupid.
How is it denigrating to a uniform to have someone checking for safety? I thought the whole point of being in the military was to protect others. And now someone is actually doing it and it makes you butthurt? Soldiers can be whackjobs too.
Whenever I'm in uniform and I get stopped and checked, I'm personally glad that someone is doing their job.
Why people still to this day assume just because someone is in uniform they're to be immediately trusted is beyond me.
TSA should check everyone, without discrimination, no matter what they might be wearing.
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ProudSonOfPeleliuVet — 16 years ago(December 14, 2009 11:48 AM)
From my perspective, the TSA agent did his job, but the actor in 'Taking Chance' portrayed the agent as basically having a piss poor attitude about Lt. Col. Strobel's requests.
The TSA should absolutely check everyone, and I think if you watch the scene, you realize Kevin Bacon's character is not adverse to being checked, but does not want to A) ever have Chance's belongings leave his possession, and B) belittle his uniform by lumping it in the xray machine with everybody else's crap.
Maybe if the agent had shown a little more respect for the requests in the scene instead of huffing and rolling his eyes about doing his job, people wouldn't get so fired up about it.
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SgtHugoStiglitz — 15 years ago(April 23, 2010 01:15 PM)
I agree that uniforms can be bought anywhere, and everyone should be searched while going through - no exceptions, but the manner in which the TSA handled the LTC was incredibly disrespectful and unnecessary. Even if he suspects him to be an imposter, a reasonable TSA would still:
a) recognize that this man is escorting a fallen marine - definitely not your typical terrorist MO
b) see that he's not some brand new private or cocky young officer - he's actually being polite and accomodating
c) recognize that U.S. marines are trained to raise more hell than an entire staff of TSAs if you push the wrong buttons
d) all of the above
All in all, the guy may have been doing his job but he crossed the line several times - you simply don't hassle a marine (even if you think he's incognito) unless he gives you reason to. I was watching this with my Army ROTC class and I could hear several knuckles cracking when the scene ended.
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terrilambert — 14 years ago(May 30, 2011 05:57 PM)
Sgt: The previous scene (where he was at the ticket counter) pretty much showed that the airport employees did not immediately know what to do with a military escort, that they understood what the military escort did or how to handle it - the screening agent had no reason to think that he was escorting a fallen marine (or any other branch of the military)- it wasn't like he showed paperwork to that effect to the screening guy, the military didn't send out a memo to airport employees, the airport didn't send out a memo saying - "we have a fallen marine flying our airlines today so be sure to f with the escort".
To me the TSA was just harrassed and had someone else demanding special treatment - in a long line of people expecting special exemption for screenings.
To me, if everyone does not have potential to be screened then noone does. I don't believe a military uniform should exempt you from being screened, nor do I believe that old people, white people or anyone else should be exempted - to me that would be discrimiation and profiling.
What I think should be general airport policy is that once an escort gives a ticket agent his paperwork - the escort should then be personally escorted to the gate, by-passing all security.
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MysteryReaderReturns — 15 years ago(August 15, 2010 06:14 PM)
I don't see why military personnel are exempt from airport security procedures. They should have to take off their jackets & boots like everybody else.
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actionmanrandell — 14 years ago(May 13, 2011 05:14 AM)
it is there job to have you walk through security. the guy could have been nicer but there has to be standards and just because someone is in a uniform doesnt mean they are really in the marine corp they could be an imposter
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josborn828 — 14 years ago(June 17, 2011 01:22 AM)
I have mixed feelings on the subject because in this situation post 9/11 security is in a no win situation. You are too strict until there is a succesful attack and then it's "why was security so lax". However the biggest insult I ever recieved was from a pre 9/11 screener. The one thing that strikes me about this very long thread is that no one has mentioned Joe Foss.
Joes Foss was awarded the Medal of Honor for his service as a Marine Corps fighter pilot in WWII, became a General in the Air National Guard, was elected Governor of South Dakota and was the 1st commissioner if the AFL. Joe Foss was asked to speak to the graduating class at West Point. When he arrived at Phoenix Sky Harbor he was not allowed to board the plane, they refused to let the 80+ y/o on the plane because his MOH had pointed edges like a throwing star.
I was 31 when 9/11 happened so I no longer consider myself a member of the younger but I am close enough to call out the poster who slammed that entire generation. As a brat I remember a time when Military people were hassled for simply wearing their uniforms in public. The stories above make me ill but I am sure there are 1,000's of men and women who came home from Viet-Nam that would have killed to get 1/2 the respect that our vets do today. I would also ask that person to realize it is an all volunteer force made mostly of that "younger generation" that is fighting the war and that statement condemns them as well. -
dagaul101 — 14 years ago(November 16, 2011 04:10 AM)
I think the screening process was a little too invasive and I can understand Mike Strobl anger
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andy-mallory — 12 years ago(September 25, 2013 09:45 PM)
Silly misunderstanding due to lack of training.
IMO military personnel should travel in plain clothes and stow all their uniforms in the baggage anyway.
In this case the officer is an escort to a dead body so perhaps there is a case for the uniform.
The US over glorifies their military which tends to make the rest of us uneasy. It's like they can do no wrong because they 'serve'.
I watched this film waiting for something to happen - but nothing did. All the drama is before the film starts. OK - they are making a valid point about the price of war and it no doubt is good to have this process documented in film.