It's Marine, not soldier
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barryfleckmann — 16 years ago(July 19, 2009 05:39 AM)
Forgive them, horton-2, for the copywriters know NOT what they do. As an ex-military man myself (U.S. Air Force) it irks me, too, when I have to watch a ditzy, no-nothing TV correspondent interview a one, two or three star general, and hear that correspondent address them as Brig General, Major General or Lt. General, when the proper connotation is to address them ALL as General!! Same way for enlisted. It's NOT Staff Sergeant Jones, or Technical Sergeant Smith, it's JUST Sergeant. Drives ME nuts!! Lt. Col. Strobl, in the movie, should be addressed as COLONEL STROBL, not Lt. Col. Strobl. Since the end of the draft, the civilian community has lost its way around military parlance and jargon. We now have had two U.S. presidents (Clinton & Obama) with NO military background.
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zerog86 — 16 years ago(July 22, 2009 05:47 AM)
I agree with your main points, but as an enlisted man in the Marines I can tell you that we address all of our NCO's as their complete rank. I know this isn't the rule in the other services, but we'd get a foot in our ass if we called a ssgt or gysgt just "sergeant." In the Marines its "roger" staff sergeant or "good to go" Gunnery Sergeant, First Sergeant, Master Sergeant etc I've been in for three years and its still a pain in the ass when you see all of those chevrons and rockers walking past you and you can't tell if he's a master sergeant, sergeant major, or master gunnery sergeant, but you sure as hell better get it right before you open your mouth to say "good morning," or you guess hold your breathe and hope you don't hear "Hey Devil Dog, I rate my proper rank!"
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barryfleckmann — 16 years ago(July 22, 2009 01:23 PM)
Really? I didn't know that. In the Air Force, you can get along real nicely with just a "Sarge." However, I've been out since 1971; I don't know if things have changed, or not. Officers were easy: "Good morning, sir!" Civilians crack me up with all their ignorance concerning the lingo! Me? I'm "old school." I think EVERYBODY should do a two-year tour of duty in the military. Male and female. College? Do the two-years AFTER you graduate. I think it would be a good thing, discipline-wise. I mean, WHAT'S two-years out of your life when you're 18 or 22? This country NEEDS to get back to respect, honor and discipline. Freedom is taken for granted, today. EARN IT!!!
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jocke-karlsson — 16 years ago(October 21, 2009 12:57 PM)
I agree with you, barryfleckermann, the military does not only teach you how too defend yourself, but also discipline which many of the young people needs. Here in Sweden we have had compulsary military service, with basic training for 11 months since 1901, untill 2009 which is a bad thing now that they are reorganizing the defence and they can't offer me that education, which would have been a nice break after high school
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smoke_a_joint — 16 years ago(November 08, 2009 12:58 PM)
hey barryfleckmann.. although a military service would be nice in principle, it is today quite unrealistic.. if you have been to college, especially in the fields of natural sciences and then go to the military for two years, you are out of touch with what you have learned in college -fast-. so if at all, then before college.
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klibby — 16 years ago(February 12, 2010 11:09 AM)
Your statement "We now have had two U.S. presidents (Clinton & Obama) with NO military background." is sadly incomplete. There have been MANY U.S. Presidents with no military background. Among the early Presidents, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, John Quincy Adams, and Martin Van Buren had no military background. In the 20th Century, William Howard Taft, Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, FDR, and Lyndon Johnson had no military background, Reagan was inducted during World War II but could not serve overseas because of poor eyesight and saw no combat, and George W. Bush only served in the National Guard, which during the Vietnam War was widely accepted as a way to avoid combat duty.
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barryfleckmann — 15 years ago(May 14, 2010 05:10 AM)
It's entirely possible. Last night, I turned-off "NCIS" for the same reason. They insist on addressing military people by their pay grades (Staff Sergeant, Lance Corporal, Lieutenant Colonel, Major General)) and not their actual, everyday, in conversation only, titles It drives me NUTS!!! You would think they'd have Military Advisers.
I suppose MANY viewers of "NCIS" would consider my complaint to be petty, but on "NCIS," where Mark Harmon plays a retired Marine "Gunny Sergeant," HE WOULD KNOW BETTER! It makes his character disingenuous.
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redwingjs — 16 years ago(July 28, 2009 06:17 PM)
No, it's not. Thinking that it is the same shows your ignorance and complete lack of respect.
I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.
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smoke_a_joint — 16 years ago(November 08, 2009 12:48 PM)
hey.. I also thought that saying "soldier" would be fine.. I mean after all, isn't a marine just as honorable as any other soldier? or is it that a marine is more honorable than someone else? If someone calls me doctor, I don't care if he calls me Dr. of Biochemistry or just Doc.. althought there certainly are vast differences in any field of profession, isn't especially a soldier an honor title in itself that literally cannot be raised further?
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cpaul085 — 16 years ago(February 11, 2010 07:20 AM)
smoke_a_joint you missed the entire point of this discussion."Isn't a marine just as honorable as any other soldier?" The point being made is that Soldier is NOT a broad term for military personnel.a common misconception of the term Soldier. A "Soldier" would be in the Army. There is a specific term for each branch. Marine - Marine Core, Sailor - Navy, Airman - Air Force, Soldier - Army, Guardsman - Coast Guard. Does this not make sense? .
