To play devil's advocate, he's talking about a purely so-called "purgatory" theory, in which case the keys are a figment
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warrior-poet — 12 years ago(May 22, 2013 02:24 PM)
To play devil's advocate, he's talking about a purely so-called "purgatory" theory, in which case the keys are a figment of her imagination, a type of deja vu linked to the memory of the car wreck, a subtle subconscious reminder of how she really died. This only applies in a Jess is dead the whole time theory, of course. In a combined theory or a purely physical theory she does indeed drive to the harbor and bring the keys with her.
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whookie — 12 years ago(June 16, 2013 11:29 AM)
I guess the first thing that ran through my mind when she got dropped off in the cab was directly linked to the story of the ship's name.
I can't remember exactly but it was said about (ship's name?) making a promise to Death that could not be kept and thus (ship's name?) is stuck forever pushing a rock up a hill only to have it roll back down again.
So basically she promises the cab driver she will come back. But she doesn't. So she is forever stuck in this loop that we see in the film trying to save her son over and over (pushing a rock up a hill) but never being able to succeed (the rock rolls back down again).
I'm sure I am not the only person to think of that because it's so plainly obvious but I didn't see it mentioned in the OP's theory or the replies I read. -
sanddragon939 — 11 years ago(April 07, 2014 12:31 AM)
So I just watched this movie recently for the first time and I'm hoping to offer a fresh 'first-timers' perspective here.
I think Jess' actions (and her memories) can to a large extent be explained by some form of post-traumatic stress disorder. After watching other time travel movies, we're so used to the idea of time-travelers reacting to such unnatural phenomenon as reliving the same events over and over again or running into doppelgangers of oneself as 'normally'whereas in fact, it is FAR more realistic for such a person to 'freak out' (to put it mildly!), undergo some kind of nervous breakdown, and even start repressing memories.
Jess is a woman who, in the span of several hours, 1) was caught in a mysterious storm and shipwrecked, 2) witnessed her friends being murdered by a mysterious assailant aboard a seemingly abandoned ship, 3) discovers there are doppelgangers of her on the ship who are trying to kill her and are killing the others, 4) finds herself caught up in a bizarre, near-incomprehensible time-loop situation, 5) becomes a killer herself in a bid to escape, 6) falls overboard, washes ashore, goes home to find herself confronted by yet another doppelganger whom she violently murders, 7) somehow survives a car crash that kills her son, after finding evidence that she's STILL caught up in the time-loop!
After all of this, its no wonder Jess snaps completely and begins to repress her memories of the last several hours. By the time she gets on the Triangle, she's in a state of disorientation, perhaps unsure of what became of her son when Victor asks herafter she sleeps for a couple of hours, she's more or less a clean slate, and whatever vague memories she still has of her ordeal aboard the Aeolus she chalks up either to a barely remembered nightmare, or deja vu.
Now, onto the actual time-travelI agree with many on this thread that a 'conventional' theory of time-travel really won't serve to fully explain what is essentially a supernatural phenomenon of some kind. One thing is certain thoughthat Jess' time travel back to the start of the day (when she washes up on the harbor) isn't purely 'physical'. At some point during the loop, Jess has to be 'restored' to an earlier physical state. Otherwise, we have the problem of Jess ageing (not to mention, the accumulated physical stress and trauma, and the increasing number of injuries). This 'restoration' might also to some extent account for a mental 'snap-back' which represses her memories of the events aboard the Aeolus. -
camcody — 11 years ago(October 25, 2014 07:47 AM)
Just saw a movie remarkably similar to Triangle (similar, not the same, or as good). Similar time concept with looping, even had a Key passed along, and signs written for the next loop people (warning sign and direction sign). Saw it on netflix. Mine Games (2012)
Check it out.
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camcody — 11 years ago(January 02, 2015 09:05 AM)
Just saw a movie remarkably similar to Triangle (similar, not the same, or as good). Similar time concept with looping, even had a Key passed along, and signs written for the next loop people (warning sign and direction sign). Saw it on netflix. Mine Games (2012)
Check it out.
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hafeez112233-1 — 11 years ago(September 04, 2014 06:28 PM)
OK, I just saw this movie and there is a lot to think aboutI could spend days reading these threads (instead of only a few hours, lol). What follows is my interpretation, I do not know if it is new (probably not). Feel free to poke holes.
I like to keep it simple. Paramount to that are two things.- The story is a circle
- The myth of Sisyphus
Where does the film start, and where does it end?
Beginning: Jess telling her son that it was only a nightmare and that what one does is close one's eyes and think of something nice.
Ending: Car accident with mother and son both dead.
Connect the two.
There is no "aftermath" of the accident where Jess survives unscathed and, already late as it is, has enough time to get a taxi and get to the harbor only a "little" late as it appears.
As she is dying, or more likely comatose, she wants it to be a nightmare, to close her eyes and think of something nice.
Everything that follows seems to be a product of her own mind. Mixed in with this is all that she knows. For instance, about Sisyphus, which, I think, she remembers incorrectly, but which becomes all important in everything she constructs.
"As a punishment for his trickery, King Sisyphus was made to endlessly roll a huge boulder up a steep hill. The maddening nature of the punishment was reserved for King Sisyphus due to his hubristic belief that his cleverness surpassed that of Zeus himself. Zeus accordingly displayed his own cleverness by enchanting the boulder into rolling away from King Sisyphus before he reached the top which ended up consigning Sisyphus to an eternity of useless efforts and unending frustration."
Remember, even the "changed" Jess got frustrated at her son. Perhaps she believes that this frustration caused the "original" accident as well as each iterated version.
The taxi driver is obviously Death (or her minds version), he knows too much to be otherwisehe even tells her that she cannot save him and she promises to "come back" after imagining a different life (her world) where she took her son to school instead and in this world survived.
But she tries to cheat Death and concocts an elaborate scenario whereby she might go back in time and change things.
This is rolling the boulder up the steep hill. You do not start at the top where everything is fine. It is an arduous task. And just when she thinks she succeeds, the "boulder" rolls away
I think this is all a struggle within her own consciousness. Why is it that only Jess becomes aware of the "true nature" of the situation? With all these iterations, all these versions running around, surely someone else might achieve some awareness? But she is the only one, even going to elaborate efforts (such as dumping bodies, etc.) to explain this to herself.
Part of her is aware of this, which is why she always fails. Of course she can never reach "the top", never get to a place or time where she might actually change things.
It is sort of like lucid dreaming. I have never been very good at this and I am suspicious of those who claim otherwise. Surely there are instances when I am aware that I am dreaming, but when I try to change things, make the story or memory go as I might wish, things always seem to get out of hand.
As it does here. Part of her always knows that she cannot really go back into the past and prevent the accident. She cannot pretend that it is only a nightmare. She can "close her eyes" and think of something nice, but that will never change "reality". And as long as she tries to imagine otherwise she will experience "an eternity of useless efforts and unending frustration".
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warrior-poet — 10 years ago(August 21, 2015 01:41 PM)
Interesting thoughts. You might like this:
http://www.imdb.com/board/11187064/board/thread/223982092
I'm something new entirely. With my own set of rules. I'm Dexter. Boo.