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Muslim call to prayer always linked to the bad guys

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    himiyio — 13 years ago(November 04, 2012 03:43 AM)

    just because it's been going on for forever, doesnt make it right. and chastising another person for wanting to discuss not the only the phenomena, but also the issues behind iti just have to ask, why?
    "just makes it far easier to tell the story", at the cost of misrepresenting or distorting one culture's identity and image, is just the lamest thing ive heard. if you have to do that just to make it easier to tell a story, then you ought not to be making movies at all. so for you to speak up for that is deplorable.
    the muslim men were shown to be devout, and yet had tattoo of a crescent moon and star. if they did their research, the first thing they'd know that it is forbidden for muslims, devout or not, to be inked. taking on the religious meaning of the crescent moon and star as something that is tattooed, is also disrespectful.
    i think the movie was ok. i enjoyed it, but all these things do not add up. and for the larger american society who, to be honest, are fairly ignorant, most of them will believe what they see to be true.
    the filmic arts has to exercise greater responsibility in their craft. they can make movies about terrorism, kidnapping, they can even target the cultures that partake in it, but do not misrepresent them just because they have been vilified.

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      eleventh_sun — 13 years ago(December 19, 2012 09:47 AM)

      I think a story would be quite easy to tell about an American committing mass murder on a bunch of innocents. Much more instances of that then outside terrorist attacks.

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        acboolsen — 13 years ago(December 26, 2012 04:17 AM)

        To be fair to the Americans, their "vilainification" of the mentioned cultures has it's reasons Russia threatened world peace and freedom for half a century. China did/does the same to a lesser degree. Vietnam put into action the threat represented by the Russians and Chinese, as did/does the North(!) Vietnamese. Middle Eastern Muslims have likewise been a threat to world/western peace, security and democracy for 40 years and continue to be to this day. I don't hear you berating the Americans for putting nazi-Germany in the role of the villain time and time again?

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              gediminas-morkys — 11 years ago(January 25, 2015 07:14 AM)

              Person of Interest especially likes to have exotic mobs, they have a good coverage of Eastern Europe by now. If I am not mistaken they have even mentioned Estonian mob twice throughout the series. Amazing.

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                Strazdamonas — 9 years ago(April 18, 2016 10:49 AM)

                Pff. Estonians. They dont have anything on the Lithuania mafia.
                Applied Science? All science is applied. Eventually.

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                    Fellini63 — 13 years ago(October 20, 2012 06:26 PM)

                    that call to prayer inspired Liam Neeson to think about becoming a muslim, so at least it did some good. anyway the movie was made by jewish crackers, so whatever

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                        acboolsen — 13 years ago(December 26, 2012 04:08 AM)

                        How on earth could inspiring someone to turn to a hopelessly anachronistic religion be good?

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                          applegreeen — 12 years ago(August 06, 2013 04:34 PM)

                          beep no man in their right mind would be inspired to convert to Islam just by the call to prayer. I'd say that if he did convert, that's anything but good. Read your "holy" book, it's full of hate and contradictions.

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                            rlbatesiii — 11 years ago(September 18, 2014 10:40 AM)

                            "Did some good?" Are you serious?

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                              bobgllsp — 10 years ago(July 15, 2015 12:53 PM)

                              The Muslim threat to Israel has been going on since Israel was granted nation-status.

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                                ChihuahuaDaddy — 13 years ago(October 20, 2012 06:47 PM)

                                Judging all Muslims based on those rioting lunatics is like judging all Christians based on the redneck evangelical dumbasses who plague the USA.

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                                  keyvenx — 13 years ago(October 20, 2012 11:01 PM)

                                  There are hundreds of thousands of missionaries of the Muslim and Christian faith who are quietly doing good around the world, but it's not exactly the kind of gripping news stories that the media are going to highlight.
                                  So we get ignorant kids and people making moronic remarks about how religion is evil. Yeah, we get it - you are idiots who only know how to read headlines and not between the lines.

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                                      Halbermensch999 — 13 years ago(January 03, 2013 04:30 PM)

                                      Religion doesn't have a good track record.
                                      And it is still showing its ugly side:
                                      https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com:443/data.filmboards/images/upload/mpQA0.jpg

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                                        Strazdamonas — 9 years ago(April 18, 2016 10:52 AM)

                                        Here is some statistics about islam:
                                        Wenzel Strategies (2012): 58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
                                        45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
                                        12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
                                        43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
                                        32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.
                                        http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/10/31/sixty-percent-of-us-muslims-reject-freedom-of-expression/
                                        http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2012/10/poll-nearly-half-of-us-muslims-believe.html
                                        NOP Research: 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons
                                        http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
                                        http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
                                        People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
                                        http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war
                                        World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
                                        32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
                                        41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
                                        38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
                                        83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
                                        62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
                                        42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
                                        A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
                                        (Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
                                        About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda's attitude toward the U.S.
                                        http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
                                        Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
                                        35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
                                        42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
                                        22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
                                        29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
                                        http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
                                        Informal poll of Saudis in August 2014 shows 92% agree that Islamic State (ISIS) "conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law."
                                        http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/92-of-saudis-believes-that-isis-conforms-to-the-values-of-islam-and-islamic-law-survey/
                                        Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
                                        43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
                                        38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
                                        15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
                                        13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
                                        12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
                                        7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
                                        http://cnsnews.com/node/53865 (Pew Global Attitudes Project September, 2009)
                                        ICM Poll: 11% of British Muslims find violence for religious or political ends acceptable.
                                        http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian Muslims Poll Nov 04/Guardian Muslims Nov04.asp
                                        NOP Research: 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam
                                        http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
                                        Can you find similar numbers for other religions?
                                        Applied Science? All science is applied. Eventually.

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                                          MortZAA — 13 years ago(October 21, 2012 02:35 AM)

                                          C'mon Mr commanderdo you REALLY think they're out there rioting because of a film? have you seen the latest numbers released of innocent citizens killed by drone strikes? Wouldn't a silent assassin in the air make you a paranoid and frustrated wreck? But now we're riding into a whole new subject
                                          Take your head out the ground. There's more going on in the world than CNN or the BBC would like you to believe.

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