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      Halbermensch999 — 13 years ago(January 03, 2013 04:30 PM)

      Religion doesn't have a good track record.
      And it is still showing its ugly side:
      https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com:443/data.filmboards/images/upload/mpQA0.jpg

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        Strazdamonas — 9 years ago(April 18, 2016 10:52 AM)

        Here is some statistics about islam:
        Wenzel Strategies (2012): 58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
        45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
        12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
        43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
        32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.
        http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/10/31/sixty-percent-of-us-muslims-reject-freedom-of-expression/
        http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2012/10/poll-nearly-half-of-us-muslims-believe.html
        NOP Research: 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons
        http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
        http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
        People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
        http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war
        World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
        32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
        41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
        38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
        83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
        62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
        42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
        A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
        (Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
        About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda's attitude toward the U.S.
        http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
        Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
        35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
        42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
        22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
        29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
        http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
        Informal poll of Saudis in August 2014 shows 92% agree that Islamic State (ISIS) "conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law."
        http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/92-of-saudis-believes-that-isis-conforms-to-the-values-of-islam-and-islamic-law-survey/
        Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
        43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
        38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
        15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
        13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
        12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
        7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
        http://cnsnews.com/node/53865 (Pew Global Attitudes Project September, 2009)
        ICM Poll: 11% of British Muslims find violence for religious or political ends acceptable.
        http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian Muslims Poll Nov 04/Guardian Muslims Nov04.asp
        NOP Research: 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam
        http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
        Can you find similar numbers for other religions?
        Applied Science? All science is applied. Eventually.

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          MortZAA — 13 years ago(October 21, 2012 02:35 AM)

          C'mon Mr commanderdo you REALLY think they're out there rioting because of a film? have you seen the latest numbers released of innocent citizens killed by drone strikes? Wouldn't a silent assassin in the air make you a paranoid and frustrated wreck? But now we're riding into a whole new subject
          Take your head out the ground. There's more going on in the world than CNN or the BBC would like you to believe.

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              MortZAA — 13 years ago(October 21, 2012 03:46 AM)

              The video was just a release of energy to a very long fuse that has been burning.
              And those muslims with the placard are probably about 1-2% of all muslims living in Sydney, but the media strive to put them in the headlights to rally up people just like you, to make stupid comments just like yours. Actually my original post is concerned towards peoplejust like you.

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                MortZAA — 13 years ago(October 21, 2012 03:54 AM)

                On another note Commander of hermits, just because something is happening thousands of miles away doesn't mean its not happening. People don't just take to the streets because they had nothing to do that day. I'm not condoning those grotesc placards, but the frustration expressed by the muslim world cannot be ignored. You can go back to sleep now.

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                  aaliladak23 — 13 years ago(October 21, 2012 08:00 PM)

                  MortZAA, as an American Muslim, I truly appreciate the objectivity of your point of view. As I'm sure you did, people must do their homework by means of reading/research to truly understand the underlying issues of contemporary Islam and its misinterpretation by the Media. The world needs more individuals like yourself who take initiative to ascertain the facts; rather than the media's brief, biased portrayals that everyone buys into. People like Commander Jim need to acknowledge this obligation to read between the lines, or ignorance will only continue to plague us as a society.
                  As for the film's portrayal, I think you have a point about the connotations that such scenarios imply, though I don't think its necessarily problematic. Directors and producers have the difficult task of portraying context in addition to the plot of the story within a 2 hour time frame. For the sake of imagery and time constraint, I feel many stereotypes are used to enable the masses to comprehend the context of the film as the plot continues to develop.

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                    samahirg-398-974640 — 13 years ago(December 20, 2012 12:49 PM)

                    okay that does it . I am a muslim and I live in Pakistan and don't make someone stupid .mortzaa is a muslim name and no you are not white . you are one of us . secondly drone attacks killing innocent people ? those drone strikes killed baithullah mahshud and countless other terrorists the one who is responsible for killing thousand of Pakistanis. before baithuallah mehsud was killed , we had around 10 suicide attacks per week . after that person got killed we have less suicide attacks . so if you still think innocent people die in drone attacks than shoot yourself in the head . fourthly if you are going to whine about madrassas being shown as terrorists nurseries . most of the madrassas that run on Saudi funded money are responsible for upbringing hate against humanity and not even only humanity but against muslims as a whole .

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                      aks1987 — 13 years ago(January 26, 2013 08:38 AM)

                      drone attacks kill more innocent people than they do terrorists.
                      And not only does hollywood portray the call of prayer and muslims with the bad guys in their movies so does the Bollywood in a huge number of their movies. Even though a lot of muslims live in India.
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                        Strazdamonas — 9 years ago(April 18, 2016 10:53 AM)

                        drone attacks kill more innocent people than they do terrorists.
                        Citation needed.
                        Applied Science? All science is applied. Eventually.

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                          bobgllsp — 10 years ago(July 15, 2015 12:54 PM)

                          What frustration?????

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                              struggle67 — 13 years ago(November 07, 2012 02:50 PM)

                              One silly amateur youtube video sent the whole muslim world into an orgy of rioting and murder.
                              The fact you think the whole muslim world went crazy is because that's how the media presented it. 1 million people demonstrated responded out of 1.5 billion muslims but the "whole" muslim world went into an uproar. Your the average joe who is getting persuaded by images/movies like this.

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                                bobgllsp — 10 years ago(July 15, 2015 01:04 PM)

                                You don't see Christians killing innocents

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                                  valentyn0 — 13 years ago(January 03, 2013 02:10 PM)

                                  agree, i mean what religion kills it's own ppl just because u want to "try" a different way of life, be it christianism, buddhism or agnostic. (if some amateurs dont know this, google apostasy)

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                                    Ramaadi — 13 years ago(January 04, 2013 12:18 PM)

                                    read it all,or don't bother reading the first lines.
                                    let say everyone in this world died .
                                    and only you -let say your a man- and 1 man and 1 girl left on this earth.
                                    we ask the two guys
                                    is raping others ok?
                                    you said no.
                                    the other one is a Rapist and he says yes.
                                    so
                                    third of the world think rape is fine
                                    do we let them do it because they think its fine?
                                    is it ok if you tide up the Rapist?
                                    no you cant do that
                                    why no?
                                    the Rapist born and lived his whole life between others just like him -Rapists- .
                                    you think he will understand your point of view ?
                                    to him your just an as***le who is trying to take his "freedom" away.
                                    so, no you cant do that,just because he have a diffident lifestyle.
                                    so what would you do?
                                    1-tie him up.
                                    2-let him rape the girl.
                                    I don't know what would you do.
                                    but even if you don't understand my point of view for the action I would do ,I'll always tie you up.

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                                      d_henderson1810 — 13 years ago(October 22, 2012 11:25 PM)

                                      Why don't you go and live in an Arab country then, you Arab-lover!
                                      You call Americans "milkshake-loving"? How about you "tea-drinking" Poms!
                                      Let's face it. The UK have never forgiven the U.S. for becoming independent from them, and becoming even more powerful than the U.K. ever was!

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                                        MortZAA — 13 years ago(October 23, 2012 12:50 PM)

                                        Dick Henderson - you make no sense.
                                        Arab Lover? well yeh, Arab / Anglo / Persian .Humanity. Apart from mongloids like you.
                                        You sound too stupid to reply back too but Ill give it a go. My point about the milkshake loving America was in reference to the end scene where Liam Neeson and his family are drinking milkshake, portraying life back in the civilised word after killing a bunch of pesky Muslims. Didnt that scene make you want to Vomit? Or were you too busy tugging one off over Liam Neeson and his 9mm.
                                        I just wrote all that while drinking some fine Yorkshire tea (of the gold variety) do you even know what POM stands for? I hope I made you google that.
                                        Thanks to ignorant morons like you it only emboldens my argument.
                                        But no you're right, all this stems from the American war for independence. I definitely sound like an imperialistic pig still living in the past. Man i wish i could decide who i vote in as president by watching t.v commercials.
                                        P.S. The U.K's doing just fine without you.

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                                          d_henderson1810 — 13 years ago(October 25, 2012 12:51 AM)

                                          First of all, my name's not Dick, but you obviously like acting like one!
                                          As for the end scene, I think the movie should have ended with Neeson holding Lennie after he had just killed the bad guy. I did actually feel that the final scene was necessary (unless the boyfriend turns out to be another son of the baddie in Taken 3).
                                          Also, I was not tugging one off over Liam Neeson, rather the daughter, who cut a fine figure in the bikini she wore for half the movie.
                                          You are one angry Pom, aren't you!
                                          The fact that you Poms bash America all the time makes me think that, yes, you are pissed off about the American war of independence. Why else would it be?
                                          Look, you come across like a loser, putting down people who don't agree with you. You come across as a mean person in your comments.

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