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Not worthy of the Golden Globe awards.

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    rubirub — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 05:33 AM)

    The Night Of wasn't perfect, but it was much better than this.
    Both shows
    require a suspension of disbelief from the viewers
    , but in the case of The Night Manager the effort the viewer has to make is immense from the beginning (at least The Night Of went off the rails a couple of episodes later).
    Anyway, The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story wasn't perfect either. I'm sure there were other bold (and worthy) options in the limited series category that were left out.

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      sarizonana — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 04:10 PM)

      Wooow, really?
      I watched a whole different show with the same name then because i thought it was really good, it takes maybe afew minutes to grab you but once it does it's fantastic with really good performances.
      Maybe They needed an actor with more prescence and more mature for Pine but it was compensated by Hugh Laurie who is really charming and you see why some people wanted to be around Roper he definitely gave you that vibe of someone you wouldn't want as your enemy but loved as a friend.
      Angela Burr would have been better as a men too, someone more impossing but I guess Olivia gave this some realism to the series, except her and Corky everyone looked very polished so i think her casting was fine.

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        Doc_Roliday — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 06:21 PM)

        Yeah, Hugh just did a repeat of his House character: very intelligent and sarcastic with leadership attributes

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          sarizonana — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 08:10 PM)

          So who cares?
          Clooney also does it in almost every film he is in and everone loves him for it, so i have no trouble seeing Hugh repeating House in some way. His greatest attribute as an actor is not being a chameleon but his effortless ability to go from drama to comedy in just one second and his great charisma.
          Not everyone has to be Daniel Day Lewis to impress, im not saying it discredit your opinion, i used to think thatvway that only chameleons were great actors and everyone else were just lazy comformist but as my favorite actors list got more diverese i learned to appreciate other types of actors and different strengths.

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            Doc_Roliday — 9 years ago(January 12, 2017 05:31 PM)

            I did not say he is a bad actor for repeating his House persona; I agreed with the topic title of him not deserving an award - he was already awarded multiple times for this same type of performance. Golden Globes doesn't have much credibility anyway

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              sarizonana — 9 years ago(January 16, 2017 10:07 AM)

              All right but here is another argument for him deserving an award for seemingly plsying the same role twice with a different name.
              Jack Nickolson won 3 playing the same character.
              And Roper is a villain meanwhile House is an Anti Hero or flawed hero. While House and Roper share some characteristics their nature and intentions make them different.

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                xrysafro — 9 years ago(January 14, 2017 01:58 PM)

                I found it fascinating, kept my interest right from the start. Tom Hiddleton has a star quality. When he's on screen he captivates the viewer. It was only 6 episodes so we didnt have the time to know the characters better but Pine was not only a hotel manager that became an agent, he was a former soldier in Iraq, with an agent father. So, it's not that he came out of the blue. I found Hugh Laurie smaller than circumstances. He had a foxy look in his eyes, he was arrogant and ironic, just like House and that's all

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                  Kat1979 — 9 years ago(January 14, 2017 10:32 PM)

                  I'm glad someone else agrees. To a degree. At best, an award for the opening credits and the scene with "Angela Burr," ("Corkoran" was noteworthy and "Joel Steadman" likeable), but it tried
                  too obviously
                  to be Casino Royal and it's as if they phoned it in or something, conjuring old characters or PR images without much thought or care. Pisses me off such half assedness gets rewarded, but the GG's have officially lost all credibility for me. Really? They thought that was the best of 2016? Such an insult to the profession and other actors of the year. Seriously. Think about it. This is what they consider the height of excellence. These are what tower over all other performances, mentioned and not mentioned, of 2016.

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                    sairam-subramani — 9 years ago(January 15, 2017 03:10 PM)

                    Totally agree. Can't believe it won any acting award, let alone three. Hugh Laurie is a brilliant actor, but I don't the camera stayed on him until the end of even one of his dialogues. And the dryness of the plot made the whole thing worse.

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                      ib011f9545i — 9 years ago(January 15, 2017 05:44 PM)

                      I am sure many worse shows have won Golden Globes?
                      What does HFP mean in this context?

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                        BenignPillows — 9 years ago(January 17, 2017 03:59 AM)

                        I actually found Colman and Laurie really good, but I agree that Tom Hiddleston didn't deserve the award.
                        I get that he wasn't supposed to be Loki - he was supposed to be a man people underestimated and didn't take notice of. The characters (the bad guys, anyway) weren't meant to realize his underlying strength and toughness; but the problem was the audience didn't see it either.
                        Hiddleston took the "Pine acting weak" bit too far, making it impossible to believe in him as a former soldier. There should have been much more intensity and charisma when he showed his "true face", but he was just timid and dull. When he was in fights, killing etc it just seem believable.
                        There's no way he would have gotten the GG if it wasn't for his US fame as Loki.
                        "The best fairytale is one where you believe the people" -Irvin Kershner

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                          ib011f9545i — 9 years ago(January 17, 2017 02:49 PM)

                          In a week where anti Americanism is going to be a big thing I refuse to believe that the Golden Globe gives awards to actors who are famous for being in something else,the judges gave the award for his acting in The Night Manager,some might disagree with their view but the guy has not just been in super hero films for god's sake.

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                            Panthers4848 — 9 years ago(January 17, 2017 04:02 PM)

                            Susanne Bier is one of my favourite filmmakers. I think the sooner she gets away from such TV series and back to film , the better . I thought this series, despite a lot of hype & promotion, was very ordinary indeed. Apart from some nice cinematography and the always reliable performance of Olivia Coleman, the rest was just so hum drum. Perhaps the material from Le Carre's book needed some better adaptation ? Bier perhaps should have engaged her usual great screenwriter collaborator in Anders Thomas Jenson to improve the script ? And the performances of Hiddleston & Lawrie were just clichd caricatures of the "goodie & the baddie" who bored me by episode 3. For me , I would have given the Golden Globes to " The Night Of" with John Turturro & Riz Ahmed vying for the acting awards.

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