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dbentley666 — 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 07:21 PM)
Frankly, I think most American political labels are quite meaningless. Conservatives in America are free-market types, which completely contradicts what conservatism means in Europe (where the thinking originates). Louis Hartz argues that all Americans are liberals, whatever they might think they are, and I agree with him. There are no nuances in American classifications. So I don't have a problem with your occupying different positions in different contexts. But some of your specific positions are very weird: such as arguing for Western superiority or for women being intrinsically inferior. Those sound like such dumb redneck positions I can't even take them seriously.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 07:35 PM)
But now you're acting like Sophie who threw a hissy fit without even reading what I'm saying.
I didn't say women are inferior. I said they're physically smaller than men and they are incapacitated much of their lives by pregnancy, child rearing and even menstruation. They even must squat to pee. These are biological impositions on their lives of which men are free. This is the reason why patriarchy rules the world.
And how is Western civilization not superior? The world wouldn't have computers and automobiles and electric lights without it. I'm not saying white people are superior. That would be nonsense. But what European cultures have created far exceeds anything done by any other cultures.
Everything the Chinese have and are using now to compete with us was given to them by us. They created nothing themselves which accounts for their current success. It's an inferior culture.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 03:06 AM)
Can you imagine how many strong women with great DNA were eliminated from the gene pool because a saber tooth tiger snuck up on them from behind?
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 03:15 AM)
We're talking about thousands of years of evolution. If it takes a woman 5 seconds to pull up her pants and flee and it takes a man one second to pull up his zipper and flee, over eons that must be taken into account.
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Cerridwen — 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 03:21 AM)
Platonic_Caveman said...
We're talking about thousands of years of evolution. If it takes a woman 5 seconds to pull up her pants and flee and it takes a man one second to pull up his zipper and flee, over eons that must be taken into account.
I don't think the women facing saber-toothed tigers had to worry too much about pulling up their pants.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 03:56 AM)
Cerridwen said...
I don't think the women facing saber-toothed tigers had to worry too much about pulling up their pants.
Jack, I hope you know much of this is tongue-in-cheek. The squatting to pee was just an attempt at comic relief on my part.
Remember though, that Steinem is using menstruation in the OP to bash men. It seems a rather important matter to her. Honestly as a queer man in a relationship with another man, this is something I know little about.
But I do believe pregnancy and child rearing did hold women back on an evolutionary scale. Sure males used this to subjugate them.
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azn_2 — 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 03:31 AM)
Platonic_Caveman said...
We're talking about thousands of years of evolution. If it takes a woman 5 seconds to pull up her pants and flee and it takes a man one second to pull up his zipper and flee, over eons that must be taken into account.
We're talking about thousands of years of
evolution.
Asian females are superior to wheit males.
Where did I say bony's yellow burnt hair was a personal attack on me.?
I said:
You and ebony are going gray way sooner than I am.
https://www.filmboards.com/board/p/19960246/permalink/#p19960246
And yes, I read v2/v1/sometimes MovieChat. Stop attacking me on boards where I can't defend myself, coward.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 03:59 AM)
azn_2 said...
We're talking about thousands of years of
evolution.
Asian females are superior to wheit males.
Where did I say bony's yellow burnt hair was a personal attack on me.?
I said:
You and ebony are going gray way sooner than I am.
https://www.filmboards.com/board/p/19960246/permalink/#p19960246
And yes, I read v2/v1/sometimes MovieChat. Stop attacking me on boards where I can't defend myself, coward.
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Bullshit. You made plenty of unsolicited attacks here on plenty of people. Deal with it.
If you ever want to have an adult dialog with me I'm always open and hold no animosity towards you. But first you have to start behaving like a civilized human being, not some crazy banshee.
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azn_2 — 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 04:16 AM)
Platonic_Caveman said...
Bullshit. You made plenty of unsolicited attacks here on plenty of people. Deal with it.
If you ever want to have an adult dialog with me I'm always open and hold no animosity towards you. But first you have to start behaving like a civilized human being, not some crazy banshee.
BS, you f-cking ding dong Chinaman. You harassed me and AJ for years on IMDb, because we're Asian. My history on here is full of trolls attacking me for having a mental disorder or being corced into psychiatric treatment (holycrap), despite acting far more saner than most of you idiots. Unlike you, I'm not here to troll or attention-whore with countless sock accounts. I'm here for far better reasons than you. I never instigated any attacks on people.
Where the hell did I say it was a personal attack on me.? It doesn't matter if they're not making personal attacks, they're attacks directed at people like me, regardless, and they will get their crap handed back to them.
Here's another example of what I actually said:
https://www.filmboards.com/board/p/19960325/permalink/#p19960325
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 04:18 AM)
azn_2 said...
BS, you f-cking ding dong Chinaman. You harassed me and AJ for years on IMDb, because we're Asian. My history on here is full of trolls attacking me for having a mental disorder or being corced into psychiatric treatment (holycrap), despite acting far more saner than most of you idiots. Unlike you, I'm not here to troll or attention-whore with countless sock accounts. I'm here for far better reasons than you. I never instigated any attacks on people.
Where the hell did I say it was a personal attack on me.? It doesn't matter if they're not making personal attacks, they're attacks directed at people like me, regardless, and they will get their crap handed back to them.
Here's another example of what I actually said:
https://www.filmboards.com/board/p/19960325/permalink/#p19960325
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Oh ping pong ding dong.
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dbentley666 — 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 08:10 PM)
So your argument amounts to: Men rule the world because they are physically dominant?
But surely the interesting question is: why is a species that prides itself on its rational abilities so hung up on physical power? Women are far superior in a range of ways. We should hand over a lot of power to them, if we are truly rational.
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— 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 08:39 PM)Well you’re only partially right. Menstruation isn’t particularly debilitating for every woman because the pain levels of symptoms like cramps vary from woman to woman. Other medical problems that come along with being woman like PCOS are even worse. Not every woman has kids or gets pregnant, so that point doesn’t hold.
Where you’re correct is the physical advantages men have conferred to them by testosterone. It allowed you throughout history to subjugate and control women by force. A drastically transformed political society has made these physical differences irrelevant in the grand scheme. Women are now in positions of power and can command stronger men (police and armies)
to enforce laws they write and enact. Patriarchy isn’t enforced purely by biological differences anymore.
Sexism exists but is greatly mitigated from where it was.
Your position would be more relevant 70 years ago.
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— 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 09:51 PM)He’s nutty but his erratic politics have endeared a lot of people to him. He’ll say something insightful one day then something completely idiotic the next.
Now I have to go Bentley. My husband demands a ham sandwich or he’ll beat me over the head with a blunt object made from frozen testosterone .
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 03:11 AM)
Bentley, I must call you out on the latent homophobia. Are you implying gay men have less testosterone than straight men? We tend to be oversexed and promiscuous, so I'd say we probably have an excess of testosterone. Just sayin'.
I'm not supporting patriarchy either.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 04:07 AM)
Your position would be more relevant 70 years ago.
But I was addressing the historical reasons for the power imbalance based on gender. I said that technology and birth control have changed the dynamic.
Regardless, both you and I know that patriarchy still rules the world. It may take centuries to completely level the playing field.
And then again, if there's an apocalypse and we lose everything, we all go back to square one and biology will dictate that men rule.
This is my underlying point. Class conflict and race conflict are based on social constructs. Gender conflict is rooted in biology.
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