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    leonthecleaner-1 — 12 years ago(December 01, 2013 07:48 AM)

    It was pretty impressive tech. I wonder if it's based on some theoretical tech in the far future?

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      wuhugm — 12 years ago(December 01, 2013 09:05 AM)

      No
      At least it won't be available as home device
      An entire facility might be utilized to make a single medbay functional
      Imagine the processing power needed to diagnose every possible diseases and materials to reconstruct human body
      This is like Elixir of Immortality but disguised in technology

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        leonthecleaner-1 — 12 years ago(December 01, 2013 12:22 PM)

        Yeah I also meant in a clinic basically. But eventually it has to make its way into homes I think for emergencies, but time wise there wouldn't be any queue in a central clinic as it cures you in seconds.
        A machine that can print live cells at any point in space? Is that what that would require? I actually wonder how it would even work. What kind of tech is needed to make it happen?
        Also like you said "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
        I am not a medical expert but my assumption is diagnosis aside, it's probably doing only a number of operations to make it simpler and more successful. So I think instead of trying to cure each disease differently, it's probably doing things like restoring the problem organ to a brand new state. Of course for blood related disease it has to do other things like eliminate foreign substances, or restore insufficient elements in it, etc. But this would be more efficient and make the process simpler IMO.
        Also anyone thought the machine reminded you the med pod in Prometheus? I think the one in Prometheus is much more plausible and within reach to us in our lifetime.
        But this machine is magically advanced.
        If we created AI, I think it would happen within a "short time".

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          DBLurker — 12 years ago(December 02, 2013 06:48 AM)

          A machine that will heal and reconstruct a human, available to everyone?
          Yeah I am sure the companies right now busy fighting Indian government for producing generic medicines to help the poor around the world, will let that happen.

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            Ronin008 — 12 years ago(December 14, 2013 03:37 AM)

            Poppycock. Processing power in 2013 far exceeds anything we've had in the 70s and in the size of a smart phone. It won't need a n entire warehouse of cpu.
            Will we have this technology anytime soon? Not likely but we will. Whether it happens in our life time I doubt it.

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              leonthecleaner-1 — 12 years ago(December 16, 2013 05:30 AM)

              I know it's too complex to even imagine but if we achieve true AI, then things like this would only be a matter of time. But to achieve true AI, we first need to completely understand the human conscience, etc.
              I mean we all see these news about Peda hertz CPUs, and they never come true. But if we achieve these, I think it will help.

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                bruhathkayo — 12 years ago(December 19, 2013 09:27 AM)

                Very presumptuous of you. Being able to predict the future is damn near impossible. Could anyone have predicted the internet back in 1900? Don't bother try to say what's going to happen in the future, you don't know any more than anyone else.

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                  bigBang8 — 12 years ago(February 06, 2014 03:10 AM)

                  Processing power isn't the issue, technology and this magical non invasive ATOMIZER, that somehow replaces bad cells atom by atom. According to the patients blood type and all that beep It's entirely possible, processing power is about to get 250-500 times faster in the next 20 years, as silicone is reaching it's limits even sooner than expected, graphene will be used as an alternative most likely.
                  The increase in human knowledge is the cause of the decline of religions.

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                    Liker_of_things — 12 years ago(March 22, 2014 07:29 PM)

                    Oh please @ your faux-authoritative "no".
                    There's simply no way to know if this kind of technology will ever be possible.

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                      joolztoolz — 10 years ago(October 05, 2015 05:33 AM)

                      No? How absurd that sounds.
                      Besides, if conspiracy theorists are to be believed, this tech already exists.
                      Another pompous self-aggrandizing post from a buggy whip salesman who insists that horses will always be the main mode of transportation.
                      I am a leaf on the wind - watch how I soar.

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                        leonthecleaner-1 — 10 years ago(March 25, 2016 10:23 AM)

                        Are we getting close guys? Alpha Go is an important step in AI.

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                          vesil_vesalier — 9 years ago(June 25, 2016 02:48 PM)

                          Are you sure?
                          I mean, certainly I see the point of your argument, but I wonder how far technology could advance by the year 2154. Technology, as it grows, also grows faster exponentially as we go into the future, expanding more quickly than it ever has before. Isn't it at least possible that such a thing could exist for the super rich?
                          Besides, in an article I read somewhere that discussed the various technologies of STAR TREK and how close we were to obtaining them (cellphones being compared to communicators, which we already have, of course) the only one that was on the list that got a rating of 1 (which meant currently impossible) was warp drive.
                          Replicators, on the other hand, got an impressive 3. Apparently there is experimentation going on somewhere involving that very technology, converting matter into energy. If it's more possible than we think it is, isn't the technology in ELYSIUM more than possible? Given the time-frame we're talking about and the science that's already a reality?
                          Just a thought.
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                            Strazdamonas — 12 years ago(December 02, 2013 11:45 AM)

                            If we invent technoogy that can rearrange atoms in human body without harming the human - yes. Otherwise - no. Even after such technology it would take a lot of work to make it do what it is supposed to in real time to a live human.
                            to put it short: you wont see it in your lifetime.
                            Applied Science? All science is applied. Eventually.

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                              leonthecleaner-1 — 12 years ago(December 02, 2013 02:36 PM)

                              But it also have to create new atoms, no? Also for computing I realized it should be very plausible as well, because if we reach this tech, then computing power has to be extremely large. So I don't think you will need an entire facility for computations.

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                                Strazdamonas — 12 years ago(January 08, 2014 03:42 AM)

                                You dont create new atoms, unless you use fussion reaction, but that would be very deadly. you rearange existing atoms and add extra if needed from the machines storage of atoms or picked from whatever source (air works but may not have all necessary atoms).
                                Applied Science? All science is applied. Eventually.

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                                  HkizzIe — 12 years ago(December 03, 2013 01:49 AM)

                                  It won't be possible, not even in the far future. To create matter or re-organize matter with that sort of speed might be possible, but it'll create a HUGE amount of heat. There's no way you can create living tissue at an atomic level. Even if you tried to do it with non living tissue you would have a hard time doing it simply because of the energy that you would either need to input or would be created in the bonding processes between molecules.

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                                    uponapyre — 12 years ago(December 16, 2013 07:11 AM)

                                    You're basing this on our current ability to produce tech, you're being extremely short sighted.
                                    You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, Darling!

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                                      a7yvm109gf5d1 — 11 years ago(May 02, 2014 11:18 AM)

                                      No, it's based in fundamental physics. You know, the kind that means we don't even have supersonic passenger flight anymore, but you guys think we'll have Star Trek in a few years

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                                        Maegnas — 11 years ago(August 25, 2014 10:53 AM)

                                        Don't trouble them with trivial issues like "fundamental physics", they may confuse you for a religious fanatic! If physics says we can't do it, then too bad for physics, we'll tell it to go sit in a corner, or something. 😛
                                        Cute and cuddly boyz!!

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                                          Torrible_2013 — 12 years ago(December 03, 2013 02:12 AM)

                                          In the near future, entire organs may be 3D bio-printed using cells (of the relevant organ type) differentiated from the donor's own stem cells.
                                          http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-07/how-3-d-printing-body-pa rts-will-revolutionize-medicine
                                          The machine's technology is plausible only if cells of various organ types (heart, liver, skin etc) specific to the user/owner are already stored within the machine. The machine can use the harvested cells and print them over the scars/defects.
                                          However, the machine seems to be able to heal just about anyone who lies in it as long as they are recognized as a citizen. This requires on-the-fly harvesting and differentiating of stem cells from the user even before any reconstruction takes place. It seems highly implausible.
                                          The complete reconstruction of Kruger's face may be possible if a 3D scan of his face had already been made and uploaded somewhere in the system.

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