Is med bay plausible technology in the far future?
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vesil_vesalier — 9 years ago(June 25, 2016 02:48 PM)
Are you sure?
I mean, certainly I see the point of your argument, but I wonder how far technology could advance by the year 2154. Technology, as it grows, also grows faster exponentially as we go into the future, expanding more quickly than it ever has before. Isn't it at least possible that such a thing could exist for the super rich?
Besides, in an article I read somewhere that discussed the various technologies of STAR TREK and how close we were to obtaining them (cellphones being compared to communicators, which we already have, of course) the only one that was on the list that got a rating of 1 (which meant currently impossible) was warp drive.
Replicators, on the other hand, got an impressive 3. Apparently there is experimentation going on somewhere involving that very technology, converting matter into energy. If it's more possible than we think it is, isn't the technology in ELYSIUM more than possible? Given the time-frame we're talking about and the science that's already a reality?
Just a thought.
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Strazdamonas — 12 years ago(December 02, 2013 11:45 AM)
If we invent technoogy that can rearrange atoms in human body without harming the human - yes. Otherwise - no. Even after such technology it would take a lot of work to make it do what it is supposed to in real time to a live human.
to put it short: you wont see it in your lifetime.
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leonthecleaner-1 — 12 years ago(December 02, 2013 02:36 PM)
But it also have to create new atoms, no? Also for computing I realized it should be very plausible as well, because if we reach this tech, then computing power has to be extremely large. So I don't think you will need an entire facility for computations.
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Strazdamonas — 12 years ago(January 08, 2014 03:42 AM)
You dont create new atoms, unless you use fussion reaction, but that would be very deadly. you rearange existing atoms and add extra if needed from the machines storage of atoms or picked from whatever source (air works but may not have all necessary atoms).
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HkizzIe — 12 years ago(December 03, 2013 01:49 AM)
It won't be possible, not even in the far future. To create matter or re-organize matter with that sort of speed might be possible, but it'll create a HUGE amount of heat. There's no way you can create living tissue at an atomic level. Even if you tried to do it with non living tissue you would have a hard time doing it simply because of the energy that you would either need to input or would be created in the bonding processes between molecules.
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Maegnas — 11 years ago(August 25, 2014 10:53 AM)
Don't trouble them with trivial issues like "fundamental physics", they may confuse you for a religious fanatic! If physics says we can't do it, then too bad for physics, we'll tell it to go sit in a corner, or something.
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Torrible_2013 — 12 years ago(December 03, 2013 02:12 AM)
In the near future, entire organs may be 3D bio-printed using cells (of the relevant organ type) differentiated from the donor's own stem cells.
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-07/how-3-d-printing-body-pa rts-will-revolutionize-medicine
The machine's technology is plausible only if cells of various organ types (heart, liver, skin etc) specific to the user/owner are already stored within the machine. The machine can use the harvested cells and print them over the scars/defects.
However, the machine seems to be able to heal just about anyone who lies in it as long as they are recognized as a citizen. This requires on-the-fly harvesting and differentiating of stem cells from the user even before any reconstruction takes place. It seems highly implausible.
The complete reconstruction of Kruger's face may be possible if a 3D scan of his face had already been made and uploaded somewhere in the system. -
leonthecleaner-1 — 12 years ago(December 03, 2013 04:11 PM)
Yeah I was also thinking some sort of 3d printing. Though not sure how it would connect them to existing cells? Also inside the body, etc.
Also for creating this sort of info, isn't DNA the only thing the machine needs to restore/reconstruct organs, etc? -
HkizzIe — 12 years ago(December 03, 2013 04:47 PM)
Yeah but if you look at the article, note how such technology is limited to:
body parts: heart valves, ears, artificial bone, joints, menisci, vascular tubes, and skin grafts.
The key word there is body parts which then have to be transplanted. Certain body parts are very generic and easy to replicate, which is why in medicine you can easily transplant things like skin, joints, parts of hearts, or entire hearts, etc.
But to totally create a face actually on the face itself without a transplantation process, and in that speed, no way. That means creating it at an molecular level which is a totally different technology and would generate too much heat.
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uponapyre — 12 years ago(December 16, 2013 07:15 AM)
"too much heat" is only tied to our current level of technology. We will overcome this issue in the future.
You simply cannot apply the restrictions we have today to the possibility of advancment, history will teach you this is nonsense.
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ktyson9426 — 12 years ago(December 09, 2013 09:00 AM)
Robotic machinery is being developed to permit surgeons to operate remotely, and somewhere in the distant future there might be some sort of autonomous medical technology that could operate on humans. I think the level of technology Elysium portrayed was far fetched though Even 144 years into the future.
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uponapyre — 12 years ago(December 16, 2013 07:14 AM)
You can't see it because you're looking from your position here, in 2013.
Tech WILL advance to this point. It's absolutley inevitable if we continue to progress at an exponential rate, or even progress at all.
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gfarrell80 — 12 years ago(December 27, 2013 07:25 PM)
Tech WILL advance to this point. It's absolutley inevitable if we continue to progress at an exponential rate, or even progress at all.
Anything that was possible in science fiction 100 years ago is now a reality. I think most things that we see in science fiction today will eventually be reality.
I love optimism but I think you guys have to realize that there are limitations to what can be done with matter.
There are lots of things written about in science fiction that are still complete absurdities.
We have not been progressing at an exponential rate (however you choose to define that), and the idea of inevitable progress and growth is some kind of illusion. In 200 years we could be stone age tribes again killing each other with sharpened sticks and rocks if we're not careful. -