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One annoying plot hole.

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      psy_chick — 13 years ago(September 17, 2012 08:56 PM)

      Yea, it still leaves that plot hole. I suppose you could fill that one by arguing that you have to trade every day, Daniel was home for two days, so when it took him back after the second day it took Trish as a sort of back-payment for the second day? More likely, they just thought it was more exciting and wanted to have an excuse to show a dead fetus (lol).
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        BrewedinHolland5 — 13 years ago(October 13, 2012 09:07 AM)

        Didn't Walter's son warn against trading with 'it'?
        Perhaps he had tried trading (stolen jewelry) to no avail, and it was Walter that placed those items on Callie's doorstep sort of furthering his attempt to trade with her to contact the son. The trash bags he later brought, like the one containing the dog, and given what was found in the contents of the husband's stomach, were offered as a source of substance for the abducted?
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          psy_chick — 13 years ago(October 15, 2012 07:29 PM)

          Yea, that's all possible. But going with my theory, Walter's son would have warned them against it because he knew the danger of having to constantly offer new trades. Because if I remember the order correctly: Walter's son leaves the jewelry, Walter appears to Callie, Callie leaves the food in the tunnel the next day (intended for Walter) and Walter's son tells her not to leave it there, the jewelry is given to Callie (presumably from the troll in exchange for the food), Callie puts the jewelry back in the tunnel (which is interpreted as a trade by the troll), and then Daniel comes home.
          Sorry if those aren't in the right order, it's been a month or two since I've seen the movie!
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              dont_b_so_BBC — 13 years ago(July 18, 2012 03:28 AM)

              I don't see it as a plot-hole that the police never found the fetus, because any number of things could have happened between the trade and the police discovering that Callie was missingmaybe picked up by wild birds/animals?
              A plot-hole is an inconsistency (hence "hole") between 2 connecting/connected scenes in the movies e.g. if the police actually saw the fetus and then act as if they never saw it
              If you care enough to go around telling people you don't care you obviously care.

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                  SparklingLily — 13 years ago(October 16, 2012 09:13 PM)

                  Oh c'mon now, a fetus completely missing with no trace whatsoever from birds and animals in a concrete tunnel?

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                      Jazmyneliza — 13 years ago(November 01, 2012 04:04 PM)

                      After reading all the replies I've come up with an alternative motive.
                      Perhaps Callies demand for a trade was not appreciated by the troll, & to show her that not only is she in no position to demand anything but also to note that what is and isn't a sufficient trade is determined by the troll itself, it returns the fetus as basically a "yeah well, beep you" and then takes both Callie & the fetus to the Underneath..
                      Just a thought.

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                        Meats_Of_Evil — 13 years ago(November 02, 2012 10:42 PM)

                        Damn, just saw this and I didn't know that thing was a fetus, I figured it was a head, it was kind of blurry and I couldn't make out the form, but a fetus is more gruesome and would make more sense since the sister was pregnant. Still, I thought this movie was pretty good and it gave me quite a few good scares without having to resort to loud noises, which is excellent in my book.

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                          JrnlofEddieDeezenStudies — 13 years ago(November 03, 2012 04:53 PM)

                          I like how you just make up your own rules, your own story, pretend that the film must be following them, and then say that it's a plot hole when that's not the case.
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                            i3uqz — 13 years ago(December 05, 2012 06:48 AM)

                            the ending sucked ass.. the rest of the movie wasn't that much better!

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                              dccgemini — 13 years ago(December 05, 2012 05:00 PM)

                              I'm wondering more about how the cops didn't find the shoe that the sister lost while getting taken. That should have been an obvious find and hint that she didn't just run away.

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                                StaunchWoman — 11 years ago(October 21, 2014 11:13 AM)

                                They might have found the shoe, but did they really have to tell you, the audience, that they found her shoe?
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                                  king_of_bob — 10 years ago(September 29, 2015 04:16 AM)

                                  How exactly are the police supposed to know the shoe belongs to Calli and isn't just some random shoe in the street? Did she have her name written on her shoes?
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                                    phoenix74 — 13 years ago(December 22, 2012 11:48 PM)

                                    I agree with those who say that the fetus would most probably have been eaten by stray dogs, birds and/or wild animals. Still, there are many possibilities as to what happened to it. It may have been discovered and mistaken for some poor girl's miscarriage then taken away - remember, nobody was urgently searching for the sister because by the end of the film the only people left who were involved in the whole affair were the police, and it probably took some time before they realised both girls were now missing.

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                                        Ikari9 — 13 years ago(February 06, 2013 12:47 AM)

                                        You can't make up events that aren't suggested, so the wild animal thing wouldn't fit.
                                        You absolutely can't say they'd just find a damn fetus and think nothing of it..especially when it's the child of one of the cops. So that is certainly ruled out.
                                        The only explanation that would fit is contrary to my initial posting, the creature did in fact take the fetus back after all.

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                                          mariano_yuba — 12 years ago(April 19, 2013 10:23 PM)

                                          Maybe Trish traded her life for the fetus, and the troll all too literally obliged. Just because it looks like the baby is for Callie doesn't mean it is.
                                          Still, i think it is good that we NEVER get a true explanation of just WHAT went on, it is part of the point of this film. We can either believe what we see through Callie's eyes, or what we see from the detective's. Even the end could be some sort of metaphorical way of saying the detective, like Trish did with Daniel, is starting to entertain the thoughts that the troll thing as told by Callie was true. It's good how this movie offers two distinct lines of thought to interpret what happened. Did Trish imagine Daniel's ghost out of grief, or was Daniel sneaking through the cracks to momentarily see her? (Notice the apparitions happened in dreams at first, no reason to believe Daniel did that, going by what we see). Not all that terrifying, but a REALLY well put together, deeply psychological, film. It's nice to see not EVERYONE is devoid of ideas these days.

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