Anyone else hate the Science professor? (Spoilers)
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king_of_bob — 9 years ago(July 12, 2016 10:32 AM)
Oh thank you for lecturing me over a benign analogy. My point was that the movie humanized the alien and then we lean that the alien was eating humans. Hence, the "extra terrestrial" Jeffrey Dahmer. It was a mere quip in any case.
my point is that your point wasn't at all apt. Your point is invalid. The movie didn't "humanize" the alien. The movie presented it in a sympathetic light, because it was cut off from its own people and being held captive by the government. Imagine you're on a completely alien world, entirely alone. Are you going to do whatever you have to in order to survive, or are you just going to give up and die?
The alien eating humans is no different than us eating cattle or chicken. In its view, we're just lower lifeforms. You may as well have called it "The extra terrestrial Daniel Boone." It would have been infinitely more accurate.
I have to wonder why you even bothered to reply to this 2 years after the fact.
While you technically are correct, IMO it didn't work in the context of the movie. The audience is supposed to sympathize with the alien. It's hard to do that when it's eating the townspeople who had nothing to do with it. What if the alien had eaten the girl at the end too? "Oh well, it was just trying to survive!"
Hard for you, perhaps. But there are plenty of people who had no problem sympathizing with it. Sympathy requires you to see things from anothers point of view. You're unable to do that, for whatever reason.
Like I said, it's doing what it has to in order to survive. I do not begrudge the alien it's survival. Like I said, to the alien, those "innocent" people are no different from an animal we would hunt in order to survive. We are lower life forms to it, just like the animals we eat for food are lower life forms to us.
I mean, do you hate lions for eating antelope? What's the difference in your view? Is it because you're a member of the species being used for sustenance?
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Augustus_Octavian — 12 years ago(March 30, 2014 01:37 AM)
I would feel annoyed, but I would understand it was for the greater good (of my captors).
You primarily have 2 choices. Play nice and form friendly relations with the alien people, or not play nice and try to steal all the technology you can. The US military chose to not play nice. -
king_of_bob — 11 years ago(September 01, 2014 07:54 AM)
I would feel annoyed, but I would understand it was for the greater good (of my captors).
beep you would. You would be ROYALLY pissed off if you were held for 20 years for absolutely no reason. And what greater good is served by holding the alien anyway?
You primarily have 2 choices. Play nice and form friendly relations with the alien people, or not play nice and try to steal all the technology you can. The US military chose to not play nice.
And the alien is just supposed to be cool with that? Give me a break.
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Augustus_Octavian — 11 years ago(September 01, 2014 02:51 PM)
Nonsense. With maturity should come the ability to understand the other person's point of view. Sure, you are entitled to be annoyed and "royally pissed" as you put it. But that does not exclude
also
understanding the logic behind your enemy's viewpoint. The two are not exclusive.
No The alien is still entitled to kill humans in retaliation even if it understood the military logic. Do have better reading skills and maturity. Really -
king_of_bob — 11 years ago(September 02, 2014 02:54 PM)
Nonsense. With maturity should come the ability to understand the other person's point of view. Sure, you are entitled to be annoyed and "royally pissed" as you put it. But that does not exclude also understanding the logic behind your enemy's viewpoint. The two are not exclusive.
Nonsense yourself. Why should it understand their point of view(whose point of view are you even talking about)? Again, WHAT greater good is served by what the military was doing with the alien in this movie?
No The alien is still entitled to kill humans in retaliation even if it understood the military logic. Do have better reading skills and maturity. Really
It wasn't doing that. It was taking people to eat. It wasn't just going out and mindlessly killing people because it was mad.
And get off your high horse. For someone who is so poor at expressing themselves, you sure do have a mighty high opinion of yourself.
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Augustus_Octavian — 11 years ago(September 03, 2014 07:20 AM)
You claimed that the alien was held by the US military for
absolutely no reason
. It is blatantly obviously what the reason is, namely to secure technology/knowledge whether through direct experimentation or disclosure by the alien under duress.
I think very highly of myself because I am just that good. Really, I can already see how this discussion is going to end: you running away like a pussy and claiming that I am the real loser and that you are the "real" winner. I estimate 5 to 10 replies, depending on your capacity for humiliation.
You are screwed. You are screwed because in
your very first post
you already stated definitively an opinion which is indefensible. Judging by your character, I am confident you will not admit you were wrong and will choose to die on that hill. I shall happily dispatch you. -
king_of_bob — 11 years ago(September 04, 2014 06:19 AM)
You claimed that the alien was held by the US military for absolutely no reason. It is blatantly obviously what the reason is, namely to secure technology/knowledge whether through direct experimentation or disclosure by the alien under duress.
Your suggestion is that the alien should just be cool with it, which is complete and utter gibberish. And that isn't a reason. That's like kicking a puppy and saying you did it because you wanted to see what would happen.
I think very highly of myself because I am just that good. Really, I can already see how this discussion is going to end: you running away like a pussy and claiming that I am the real loser and that you are the "real" winner. I estimate 5 to 10 replies, depending on your capacity for humiliation.
Oh I see. Your a narcissist. It's all coming together now.
You are screwed. You are screwed because in your very first post you already stated definitively an opinion which is indefensible. Judging by your character, I am confident you will not admit you were wrong and will choose to die on that hill. I shall happily dispatch you.
And yet you've offered no actual refutation of my statement. Interesting.
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Augustus_Octavian — 11 years ago(September 05, 2014 05:22 AM)
Ah I love this part, going in for the kill Please dont run away too soon, let me cherish this.
Your suggestion is that the alien should just be cool with it
That is not true. Instead, I stated in my very first post that "I would feel annoyed" and in a subsequent reply even arguably "royally pissed".
I made no statement whatsoever that I would be fine with being experimented upon. Quote a
single
statement by me that said what you claim I said.
As I said, you are an immature little child. A man can understand his enemy even though he hates him nonetheless. You seem like the type that never finds it just that you get a speeding ticket, even if you did sped.
And that isn't a reason
Technology advancement isnt a reason? Is that the line that you are going to go with? If you are arguing that it is a bad reason in view of future poor diplomatic relations with the aliens, then that is one thing. But you are claiming that it is not a reason to begin with. Little child -
Augustus_Octavian — 11 years ago(November 07, 2014 05:11 AM)
Dumbass. I won a victory, I deserve the right to gloat over him. This is the spoils of victory, to rub it in.
So, you just going to be a whiny little bitch, or do you have something relevant to bring to the table? -
ezzy666 — 11 years ago(June 21, 2014 10:02 PM)
- He almost certainly killed humans by causing the train wreck, just to free a bloodthirsty alien.
Human beings are not an endangered species. A few more dead ones aren't going to hurt anything. We even manage to idiotic things and get ourselves killed.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
- He almost certainly killed humans by causing the train wreck, just to free a bloodthirsty alien.
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king_of_bob — 11 years ago(September 01, 2014 07:47 AM)
- The alien is hardly bloodthirsty. It's hungry, and it's been held for no apparent reason for 2 decades. Don't you think you would be pissed off if you just wanted to go home but were being held by some military?
- The beep? There's no evidence that the alien ever had any intentions of attacking the planet. And again, there's no evidence the alien was homicidal.
- Torture is never helpful. People will tell whatever lie will get the torture to stop. The information gained is rarely if ever reliable.
Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!