Ellis was a stalker, and was extremely creepy.
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liscarkat-2 — 10 years ago(September 20, 2015 05:03 PM)
Yeah, I thought he was annoying and too pushy. It was obvious she wasn't interested in becoming involved with him, yet he just kept putting pressure on her and insinuating himself into her life. It only worked because he was rich and (supposedly) attractive.
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winds10-2 — 10 years ago(September 23, 2015 02:52 PM)
And how about the s***ty joke he told? Maybe his character was meant to represent the ordinary banality, which the female lead longed for, cause, well, her life was pretty screwed, what with the eternal youth and all.
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Niphredil12 — 10 years ago(September 26, 2015 02:16 PM)
Absolutely agree, she rejected him (politely) multiple times and he just kept pushing. And the fact that he'd seen her before and already knew who she was before they met was just really creepy, especially when he manipulated her into going out with him for the books, and later finding out her home address which ew come on dude
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barbosa-vicki — 10 years ago(October 03, 2015 01:52 PM)
I hate to be a wet blanket, but this movie, along with our whole culture, has the whole dating thing backwards.
They meet, a spark is ignited, they fall into bed. After that they go through all the shenanigans I think I love you, maybe I love you too, I'm leaving,I need my space, etc etc. This is how it's done in all the movies, and I guess often in real life.
But it's stupid. Really, really stupid. If you're not in love with someone, it's a no-brainer don't have sex with them. It avoids a lot of problems. Sex is designed to create an emotional bond, which is why it's wise to avoid sex with people you may not want to end up with, or don't respect
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Imagine, for a second, if Elizabeth had gone to bed with Mr. Darcy right away, on first meeting him. It would destroy the plot of Pride and Prejudice.
Bottom line, you can write a love story in which the sex is the endgame, the reward for courage, persistence, and devotion, not just the casual meaningless encounter that we've turned it into. -
IvyTempleton — 9 years ago(June 11, 2016 01:58 PM)
But it's stupid. Really, really stupid. If you're not in love with someone, it's a no-brainer don't have sex with them. It avoids a lot of problems. Sex is designed to create an emotional bond, which is why it's wise to avoid sex with people you may not want to end up with, or don't respect
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Imagine, for a second, if Elizabeth had gone to bed with Mr. Darcy right away, on first meeting him. It would destroy the plot of Pride and Prejudice.
Bottom line, you can write a love story in which the sex is the endgame, the reward for courage, persistence, and devotion, not just the casual meaningless encounter that we've turned it into.
I agree. Not to say you can't do it that way if you choose but the result may not be as satisfying. Unless you are satisfied with casual sex and no attachment with some drama thrown in - if the guy/girl turns out to be creepy. -
CarusProductions — 10 years ago(October 28, 2015 04:56 PM)
His behaviour was not creepy. While he did pursue her, she did give in because she was interested, not because she had to. The pursuit didn't even last long. Most romantic comedies depict the male lead as being so pathetic he pursues the woman throughout the whole film. The only reason she attempted to push him away is because she was afraid of falling in love, not for lack of attraction.
Also, today's generation (I being one of them, sadly) has views on relationships that make me want to vomit. Apparently it's easier to fall in love via social media than with an actual human being in broad daylight. We see young people out on dates where both are texting, then they wonder why they're single. Who the hell would want someone that can't communicate anyhow. I see most of today's young people are better off alone, until you learn real social skills, rather than condemning the rest of us who actually want a real one-on-one interaction.
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tallard — 10 years ago(November 10, 2015 06:10 AM)
Most "romantic" films have this kind of rapey creepy going, it's the eternal story of no, no, no, no, yes That is what males in Hollywood think romance is.
*So I've seen 4 movies/wk in theatre for a 1/4 century, call me crazy? -
Bridgettedweller — 10 years ago(November 11, 2015 12:49 AM)
Exactly what I was thinking, in real life this would become a problem fast! Even attractive guys get restraining ordersthey should not teach women that this behavior is sexy.
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