A GREAT movie (don't be fooled by the hate)
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TxMike — 11 years ago(November 02, 2014 01:23 PM)
Yes, very good post and summary. Sure, some may not like it, that is true of every movie. But I just watched it again after a year, and probably enjoyed it a bit more than the first time, knowing generally what was going to happen. Yes, there are some things that require "suspension of disbelief" but most movies do anyway. This one was made to entertain and it does that very well for the majority of viewers. Plus the Blu-Ray has a super sound track for those with a well-equipped home theater.
Haters gonna hate, there's no explaining it!
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Sturmknecht — 10 years ago(October 28, 2015 03:13 PM)
The point is not the needed suspension of disbelief. The issue people have with this film is that it tries to be all so clever and constantly one-up the audience with totally ridiculous unforeseeable plot twists.
The story is full of plot wholes big enough you could drive a truck through them. The motivation of the characters is laughable while the characters themselves are shallow and underdeveloped.
It is just really, all-in-all, quite a bad movie.
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knighty74 — 11 years ago(November 30, 2014 03:30 AM)
Actually there is a very good reason why people hate this movie. It sucks.
Nobody wants to hate a film, I didn't watch it to hate it - I watched it to be entertained. I wasn't.
The film is a series of tricks, tricks that are very obviously meant to deceive. So basically every trick tries to make the viewer believe something else is happening. Oh no he sawed that girl in half - oh it was a trick!
The entire film was just this premise played over and over again. To top it all off the ending was horrendous.
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TxMike — 11 years ago(November 30, 2014 09:56 AM)
Yeah, that's why 90% of the votes are 6,7,8,9, or 10. Seems everyone hated it.
Your comment is a goofball comment, knighty74. Only a small minority hate it.
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chrisbedford — 11 years ago(January 04, 2015 06:47 AM)
their hate come from christianity, the movie is calling their god a a magician and has freemasonic symbolism
OH FOR F*(^%S SAKE NO NOT THAT CRAP AGAIN
That is complete rubbish. NOWHERE in this movie is there even a REFERENCE to the occult, metaphysics, freemasonry (really? wtf does that have to do with ANYTHING?) or even ESP.
At some point somebody (I think Morgan Freeman's character Thaddeus) says, "it's magic" in reference to how a trick is done, but it's an obvious irony. No I can only think yusef-ghanima that you are repeating something you heard from someone else, or you watched another movie, because that comment is not founded in reality at all. -
yusef-ghanima — 11 years ago(January 05, 2015 03:22 AM)
it was clear that morgan was making fun of jesus as a deceiver magician in changing water to wine. the whole movie is about a secret society the eye, symbol of masonists on pyramid on one dollar bill, are you blind!
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gerbilsrcute — 10 years ago(September 09, 2015 11:35 AM)
I enjoyed the movie (and also happen to be Catholic) also happened to like The Davinci Codeboth the book and the movie.
I think a lot of people are too sensitive to some things. It is a work of fiction and no matter what people say whether a movie is good or bad is a matter of OPINION and personal taste not FACT. The FACT is the 'worst' movie of all time will have someone who likes it and the 'best' movie of all time will have someone who hates/dislikes it. But a lot of people on these boards seem to confuse opinion and fact.
I personally plan to see the sequal when it comes out.
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Henkwich_88 — 10 years ago(December 18, 2015 08:40 AM)
There are most definitely bad movies, movies where the acting, the camerawork and so on and so on are so horrendously poorly done that you cannot call it anything else than bad. I'm sure there could be some person out there who would enjoy a movie like that, but that does not change the fact that the movie is bad.
If a movie has above 5 stars on IMDb though and people are going beep in the forum yelling about how it is the worst thing to ever hit their retinas it's in all likelihood not a bad movie in my experience - they just didn't like it and couldn't stand the thought of not telling as many people as possible.
Haven't seen the movie yet - Going to do so asap hehe
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LINDALAUGHS — 9 years ago(January 15, 2017 07:59 PM)
I am watching it now and enjoying it. Really, except for Mark Ruffalo's acting, its been pretty good. You have to suspend belief anytime you sit down to watch a movie, and this one is no different. I will watch the sequels next. Love Morgan Freeman in this!
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markfilipak — 10 years ago(March 14, 2016 06:37 PM)
SPOILERS
knighty74 wrote:
The film is a series of tricks, tricks that are very obviously meant to deceive. So basically every trick tries to make the viewer believe something else is happening. Oh no he sawed that girl in half - oh it was a trick!
I hesitate to put words in your mouth, but may I suggest that most tricks are okay, but
If a film tricks some of its characters, that's entirely different than when a film tricks its viewers. If we-the-viewers are tricked along with the characters, that's fine, but if only we are shown something, and that something is not shown to any character, then the purpose of that something can only be to trick we-the-viewers and only we-the-viewers. I suggest that in that case, we-the-viewers can justifiably feel manipulated. I think it's to this feeling that people allude when they say that a film is "too clever for it's own good".
Example: Between the time that Etienne is "teleported" and the time we see him inside the vault, we-the-viewers are shown a Parisian street scene with the caption "Paris at the same moment". We know that the MGM Grand audience doesn't see this because that caption would make no sense to them. It is there solely to trick we-the-viewers into thinking that the film is magical reality (perhaps like
Pan's Labyrinth
) and that Etienne has actually been teleported. Since that's absurd and we know it isn't magical reality, we-the-viewers are left thinking "WTF"?
I'm sure that some folks will say that it's part of the deception (or part of the fun) and that anyone who is offended needs to lighten up. Well, I suggest that such thinking is bogus because shining the light (so to speak) on we-the-viewers makes
us
the subject of the film instead of the characters in the film, which breaks the magic and takes us right out of the film.
Your mileage may vary, and I'd love to read more comment on this subject (which I think divides the great directors from the trash directors).
Peace.
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