Are you suggesting that Christians should disobey God [by supporting homosexuality] if enough people think it isn't a ch
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Melanie000 — 9 years ago(November 28, 2016 05:14 PM)
Well, wouldn't the simplest solution be to treat it just like any other form of heresy or religious disagreement?
What do you imagine we do? Or do you believe all these stories about
pink sparkly men
being set upon and more than just their feelings (of superiority) hurt?
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MilkmanDan — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 03:15 PM)
What do you imagine we do?
Who's we? Attitude towards homosexuals vary quite a bit. I was generally talking about Christians who are unfomfortable with gay-rights due to their religious beliefs. And my argument is the same as ever. They should treat homosexuals the same way they would any other group that doesn't share their faith, like Jews, Moslims, Hindus or atheists. It is possible to respectfully disagree with people, even on matters of religion.
Or do you believe all these stories about pink sparkly men being Set upon and more than just their feeling (of superiority) hurt?
Are you asking me if I believe that homosexuals are sometimes victims of violent hate-crimes? Yes, I do. In fact, I think it would be quite miraculous if homosexuals were somehow the only minority group magically protected from violent attacks.
Seriously, is it really that hard to acknowledge that sometimes even people you don't agree with, people you don't like, can be wronged? That they too can occationally be victims of injustice?
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Blade_TillTheEnd — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 03:21 PM)
They should treat homosexuals the same way they would any other group that doesn't share their faith, like Jews, Moslims, Hindus or atheists.
That works both ways. Homosexuals should stop forcing us to accept their ways. Stop forcing us to bake cakes for them.. etc.
poisoned dragon isn't known to lie
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skyhawk0 — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 07:57 PM)
No one is forced to bake a cake. They do however make a choice in opening a public business under public accomodation laws.
If you don't want to make cakes for gays, blacks, Christians, etc., don't open a public storefront. Simple.
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Melanie000 — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 04:04 PM)
Who's we?
Christians. All
genuine
non-Allaby/gagreel Christians are
uncomfortable with gay-rights due to their religious beliefs
They should treat homosexuals the same way they would any other group that doesn't share their faith, like Jews, Moslims, Hindus or atheists. It is possible to respectfully disagree with people, even on matters of religion.
As I have already said, we do. So what's
your
story?
Are you asking me if I believe that homosexuals are sometimes victims of violent hate-crimes? Yes, I do.
Correct, they occasionally are, but those hate-crimes (weasel word) are as likely
or more
, to be committed by angry-atheists, gangs of roving adolescent males, etc as by Christians.
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Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler — 9 years ago(November 30, 2016 04:03 AM)
are as likely or more, to be committed by angry-atheists, gangs of roving adolescent males, etc as by Christians.
Evidence? That's right, you have none.
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Blade_TillTheEnd — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 02:24 PM)
Are you suggesting that Christians should disobey God[by supporting homosexuality] if enough people think it isn't a choice?
I guess little jack doesn't know why he asked the question.
poisoned dragon isn't known to lie
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GameBoy_Trismegistus — 9 years ago(November 28, 2016 05:27 PM)
Sexual orientation is a subconscious choice. You don't sit down one day and decide to be gay or straight, but your responses to your environment and the people around you lead you in one path or another. I gravitated towards homosexuality. I chose it.
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bubblegum_jenocide — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 01:58 PM)
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I'm no expert, and, truthfully, I don't really care.
A better question is, if it IS a choice, does that somehow justify the persecution and discrimination gays have to face?
I mean that's what this is really about, right? If you convince yourself it's a choice, you now have full reign to make these people miserable. -
gladoscake — 9 years ago(November 30, 2016 12:49 AM)
I mean that's what this is really about, right? If you convince yourself it's a choice, you now have full reign to make these people miserable.
Of course it wouldn't matter but the point is there is Scientific tests that lean towards the conclusion that Sexual orientation is genetic and environmental, most commonly found in twins, which by theory, the other 'twin' should become 'homosexual' like the other twin, if the theory is correct and DNA is fully passed onto each twin. -
smithjgs — 9 years ago(November 30, 2016 04:23 PM)
I was watching Children of Men the other day and that got me thinking that they should make a movie where all the men either become gay or, if you want a longer history of it, are born gay and straight dudes eventually die outExcept for one.
The only tricky part would be whether to have the conflict be a bunch of gay dudes trying to kill him for some reason or a bunch of women trying to boink him since the men will no longer have anything to do with them.
Maybe it could be both, but it would have to be done in a tasteful and politically correct way.
Someone should call Verhoeven
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OldSamVimes — 9 years ago(November 30, 2016 04:28 PM)
I was watching Children of Men the other day and that got me thinking that they should make a movie where all the men either become gay or, if you want a longer history of it, are born gay and straight dudes eventually die out
Except for one.
That's a fantasy of mine.
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crusojalewhistef — 9 years ago(November 30, 2016 11:23 PM)
Pretty much. One of the most ridiculous things for me to hear/read is the argument that you choose your sexuality. Like I'm sure people would choose to be gay when that makes them ostracized/oppressed. They're indirectly saying people choose to be bullied and suicidal.
Aside from that I don't think you can choose to be straight either. It just happens based on what you see. I've never chosen my attractions if I did they would be a lot different. I would have fallen for the guy I used to date while I was in high school instead of after as that is when he asked me out. Being straight you're not ostracized but sometimes being a non model looking woman it is hard to be attracted to guys because a lot of them are visual. I think if I were to choose a sexuality I'd invent my own. It would be like one I could turn on and off like a light switch but that's not how it works because it's not a choice. I guess you could say there is a choice but only in how you react to how you already feel. You can choose to embrace your inner feelings and libido.
I try to live without regret but I'm about to break a sweat.