Atheists will burn at the 2nd Coming

[fgadmin]

washclothrepairman — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 09:17 PM)

The definition of omniscience is to know
everything
. To future is, obviously, part of "everything." Also, christians are very fond of saying that god is outside of time, so it would be able to observe, and therefor know, the future, at least on their interpretation.
Never trust a black man named "Chip."

[fgadmin]

Miscella — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 09:47 PM)

The definition of omniscience is to know
everything
.
Except, of course, where Adam was hiding or what the hell is going on in Sodom and Gomorrah. lol. Seriously, though, if paradoxes do not apply to an omniscient being, then such a being would certainly know how to predestine our fates without precluding our free will. (Did you not read the full quote I linked above?)
"intrinsic impossibilities are not things"

[fgadmin]

YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 06:54 PM)

edit: restored accidental overwrite
Just making everybody good but with free will isn't nonsense. He must have wanted things a lot more bestial with a lot of duds being culled instead.

[fgadmin]

Miscella — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:00 PM)

What makes someone 'good'?

[fgadmin]

YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:04 PM)

Whatever characteristics are required to get through the pearly gates.
Just making everybody good but with free will isn't nonsense. He must have wanted things a lot more bestial with a lot of duds being culled instead.

[fgadmin]

Miscella — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:12 PM)

'Good' isn't a characteristic? As far as I understand, the "requirement" (your word, not mine) is to not be 'bad'. Sounds pretty simple to me.

[fgadmin]

YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:13 PM)

It is whatever is required to get through the pearly gates.
Just making everybody good but with free will isn't nonsense. He must have wanted things a lot more bestial with a lot of duds being culled instead.

[fgadmin]

graham-167 — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:13 PM)

What do "good" and "bad" mean? What distinguishes one from the other?
If I could stop a rapist from raping a child I would. That's the difference between me and god.

[fgadmin]

Miscella — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:14 PM)

Isn't that more or less what I'm asking Rabbit?

[fgadmin]

YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:17 PM)

You can call it anything you like, Bible word or no. It's whatever traits qualify them for Heaven. God makes some with those traits; he could make 'em all with 'em.
Just making everybody good but with free will isn't nonsense. He must have wanted things a lot more bestial with a lot of duds being culled instead.

[fgadmin]

Miscella — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:19 PM)

Are you suggesting that there are 'bad' infants, then?

[fgadmin]

YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:21 PM)

Nope, I'm suggesting that god could make people with the traits that get them into Heaven, instead of some with and some to be discarded.
Just making everybody good but with free will isn't nonsense. He must have wanted things a lot more bestial with a lot of duds being culled instead.

[fgadmin]

Miscella — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 07:24 PM)

If there are no 'bad' infants, then it would seem that he did just that.