Her whole situation seems flawed.
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ccebrussell — 9 years ago(November 17, 2016 03:15 PM)
Lee was never the hero. She was a damaged person trying the best she could (in her own mind) to raise her child. She'd already lost one daughter already, was in an abusive relationship, divorcing the abusive ex husband, dealing with losing her job, and a drug addiction. Her world had been smashed into pieces before the events of the story.
The only thing she has keeping her from going off the brink was her daughter. Flora was her emotional crutch. Is that healthy? No. However, people in her situation are pushed past the point where they can cope in healthy ways. Lee lacked the tools to know how to deal with all of these emotions.
I work with addicts, and I can tell you that when people are in a mental crisis, they do not know how to healthily process. They do irrational things because they aren't living in the moment. Fear and anxiety take control and warp their reality.
She killed her ex husband in a fit of cold blind rage; because she was about to lose the one person that was keeping her sane.
Also, when you add to the fact that Lee had to endure two blood moons, being cut up for food. Having people harass her and invade her personal life, and other trumas. It's not a far stretch to say that she snapped.
Lee was already probably aware at the end of the season, that there never was any going back. Her daughter hated her, and as soon as she left the house, she'd be arrested for kidnapping.
Lee had no time to try and reason with an emotionally scared child, who at this point wanted to die. They had an entire squad of cops, ghosts, and the Butchers mob on the way. This not not a normal situation, and it's hard enough to reason with children, let alone a child that had seen so much death.
Lee knew Her life would never be normal again, even if the charges were dropped. Death was Lee's only option. There was no way to atone for all the murders. Lee knew that her ghost would be the only one strong enough to keep the Butcher at bay. She even says that she is just like the Butcher. Lee will have to spend her afterlife watching over Priscilla, and the other lost souls. -
Steal-No-Evol — 9 years ago(November 17, 2016 09:30 PM)
Someone probably already said this but..
If she really loved Flora, she would leave her alone and allow her live a somewhat normal life.
Even her sacrifice at the end didn't make sense. She barely addressed the idea that her eleven year old wants to commit suicide to be with her imaginary friend and decides to let herself be killed, making a child (Flora) responsible for her own mother's death.
That's a total contradiction in your own thinking or at least a grasp of comprehension.
If she really loved Flora, she would leave her alone and allow her to be killed by a ghost child. That's what you're saying.
Her sacrifice at the end, preventing the eleven year old from committing suicide to be with her ghost friend, and freeing her eleven year old from the obligation she was feeling to a ghost, was a pretty selfless thing to do.
But if you want to call out bad writing, just call it out.
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porkchop4 — 9 years ago(November 18, 2016 12:28 PM)
To me it came off as a cover your own butt situation for Lee. If she let Flora kill herself, she'd be branded the worst mother in history who drove her kid to suicide, or depending on how Flora would have killed herself, like if she jumped down the stairwell onto the snapped pieces of wood or jumped out the large window, Lee might have been charged with murder. Lee already showed what kind of self preservation she has by telling her lawyer to discredit her own daughter on the witness stand, and then try to talk to her like nothing bad had happened between them after she just saved her own butt at the sake of her daughter.
So by offering to take Flora's place, she comes off as sacrificing herself for the greater good of her kid, rather than a multiple murderer who stepped on her own kid in order to get out of a murder she admitted to doing. -
mtarek7 — 9 years ago(November 18, 2016 10:13 PM)
very much agree making Lee the hero made the show even worse than it was. When they announced only 1 would survive, I knew it would be Lee. The writers are juvinile, they want to demonstrate their liberalism by having a Black woman as the hero only they gave it to a deplorable character. A shallow character. Exactly, why not explore why her daughter is suicidal instead of some lame brain idea of dying herself? It is like she is mentally off and very annoying. And that ridicuous wig they put on her, wrdrobe and make-up couldnt do any better? I feel they were mocking Black women in essence with all this nonsense. Yet they probably think themselves clever and are so self satisifed with their "progressive" choice.
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danloki — 9 years ago(November 18, 2016 10:25 PM)
The writers are juvinile, they want to demonstrate their liberalism by having a Black woman as the hero
Wut? What does the colour of her skin have to do with the price of fish in china? Casual racism at best, you cranky Trump supporter. -
mtarek7 — 9 years ago(November 18, 2016 10:45 PM)
If I was a Trump supporter why would I be cranky , he won moron? You should have guessed Killary if you are so dumb you thought my post was against and not in defense of Black people, because Killary orchastrated massacres against Black Libyans and migrant workers and she blocked Black Haiti from receiving aid , stole the money in fact, and peoole underwent amputations sans analgesia. But your pathetic binary, racist mind finds Killary the c unt as your champion, the butcher of Libya, Syria, Yemen , Ukraine, Haiti etc. At least Trump is not a mass murderer, isn't that the real reason why you don't like him? No killing credentials? Pathetic liberal imperialist trash. You are so caught up in the spectacle and trying to look righteous by going against Trump while defending a mass murderer criminal who belongs on a noose at the Hauge. Hint: this does not default me to a Trump supporter, you silly robot.
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danloki — 9 years ago(November 18, 2016 10:50 PM)
If I was a trump supporter why would I be cranky , he won moron? You should hsve guesses Killary if you are so dumb you thought my post was agsinst and not in defense of Black people , becUse Killary orchastrated massacres against Black Libyans and migrant workers and she blocked Black Haiiti from receiving aid , stole the money in fact and peoole were amoutated sans analgesia . But your pathetic binary , racist mind finds Killary the c unt as your champion , the butcher of Libya, Syria, Yemen , Ukraine, Haiti etc. At least trump is not a mass murderer, isn't that the real reason why you don't like him ? No killing credentials . Pathetic liberal imperialist trash , now F off
I cant read that. Please translate into English.
No I wont F off. This is a public discussion board. Dont you Yanks keep carrying on about freedom of speech? You cannot shut me down with your hate, kid. -
morphine333 — 9 years ago(November 18, 2016 10:25 PM)
I agree and disagree.
I wish they would have fleshed out Lee's relationship with Mason a bit more because if we go by face value, he was right to divorce Lee and take Flora (even though I would have preferred he stood by her and they went to counseling or something similar), but I feel like there were a lot of things they could have touched on and didn't.
Maybe it will come up in a later season, but why did they bring up her missing daughter only once? It seems like that alone would be a good reason for her to be, as you put it, obsessed, with Flora. I feel like they should have touched upon that more.
I was happy she was acquitted of killing those three kids because that was all blood mood/witch stuff but I don't get why if she ate the heart and was under the witch's spell or whatever, she didn't just die that night then and there and become the new Butcher.
I dunno. I don't exactly like her being the hero of the season either, but it's more to do with her motives not being explained correctly imo.