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    Arien_78 — 13 years ago(January 01, 2013 01:27 AM)

    What grinds my gears: people who misuse the word pedophile. Get some education. A pedophile is someone sexually attracted to PREPUBRSCENT kids. A 14 year old is NOT prepubescent. Pedophiles are attracted to kids below the age of 10-11.

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      ReneeLCole13 — 13 years ago(February 04, 2013 12:41 PM)

      This is now my new favorite thread.

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        FatherOfTwo — 11 years ago(May 27, 2014 04:25 AM)

        ephebophile
        is the correct word, obviously
        Is this it?

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          drrclavan — 13 years ago(February 05, 2013 03:41 PM)

          The movie is based on a true story so it must be possible.

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            onethousandowls — 12 years ago(December 11, 2013 06:56 PM)

            True story? Source pls?

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              nishant_varma — 13 years ago(February 07, 2013 01:17 PM)

              to be frank.this is not even debatable that sister is dead.lolzi think surgeons should not watch that ending.one of the worst scenes ever

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                Monknificent — 9 years ago(October 29, 2016 06:19 PM)

                Worst as in artistically / as a denouement for a film, or worst for a surgeon? If it's the latter, I'd agree. Also, terrible for people with OCD. So much mess
                "It's too late Always has been, always will be
                Too late."

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                  Nickbadseed — 13 years ago(February 08, 2013 03:09 AM)

                  Thanks for this information, just in time as well, as I was just about to start work on my brother and the post man, could have come a real cropper there!!

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                    omart3 — 13 years ago(March 01, 2013 07:01 PM)

                    OK, so if the end result was that the two girls died and Pauline didn't succeed in the surgery, then that means she has no redeeming qualities to her whatsoever, she is just a blood-thirsty sociopath who needs to be shot and buried in the same ocean as OBL for the betterment of society.
                    The acting and atmosphere were great for this movie, I'll give it that, but the story overall didn't click with me, and I just don't feel for that monkey they call Pauline.

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                      Wrenny — 13 years ago(March 24, 2013 09:57 PM)

                      OK, so if the end result was that the two girls died and Pauline didn't succeed in the surgery, then that means she has no redeeming qualities to her whatsoever, she is just a blood-thirsty sociopath who needs to be shot and buried in the same ocean as OBL for the betterment of society.
                      The acting and atmosphere were great for this movie, I'll give it that, but the story overall didn't click with me, and I just don't feel for that monkey they call Pauline.
                      ..that's kind of the entire point of this movie.
                      she is a severely depressed, bipolar mess of a sociopath with grandiose and delusional ideas and thoughts. She needed severe help. I think she truly did want to help her sister and thought she had the ability to do so, and it makes it a sadder ending for that, in my opinion.
                      Pauline is a young girl with severe mental problems that never got any help for it because of her parents either never recognizing how truly messed up she is, or not wanting to admit to themselves that she was that ill so they just ignored it. Likely the latter. It doesn't actually take a rocket scientist to recognize your daughter is acting beyond moody-bitchy teen-girl antics and might need help, not a pastor with no psychiatric training.
                      In the end, I think as her mother held her and screamed in both anger and sorrow over how truly messed up Pauline is, perhaps finally admitting to herself that her daughter was
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                      ill, that Pauline had a moment of clear-headedness and realized the implications of what she had done and that she hadn't helped at all, but destroyed two lives, two families (the other family being Jump Rope Girl's) and her own life and future.

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                        ethermusic1981 — 12 years ago(November 01, 2013 01:01 AM)

                        Perfectly stated, Wrenny. Right on the money.

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                          Supremer68 — 12 years ago(January 27, 2014 07:29 PM)

                          What do you expect when John Waters is your shrink.

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                            Lopsided55 — 12 years ago(April 07, 2013 02:42 PM)

                            She isn't a sociopath at allshe thinks she's saving Grace and her parents will finally be proud of her and her mother will love her. OK, the girl next door has to die, but it's a sacrifice for her sister.

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                              ethermusic1981 — 12 years ago(November 01, 2013 01:02 AM)

                              Haha yep, exactly.

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                                hexedd — 13 years ago(March 13, 2013 09:00 AM)

                                lol at OP, great post. Para: It is %*(^&ing unbelievably scary that people are even ASKING whether anyone might have survived that "surgery." These must be the same people who fall for the Nigerian "I have $500,000 in my bank but I just need your $5000 first to get back to the country and get it, so please send me money" scam. I think I might have to stop coming to these boards because they make me very pessimistic about humanity's chances of survival.

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                                  natalie_princess_of_OLTL — 12 years ago(April 30, 2013 08:51 AM)

                                  Yes, I am terrified that people think she survived. Someone on the official FB page asked if she lived and the admin said no, she died. The OP then said, "But why, she did everything right!" I no longer want to live on this planet.

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                                    Symarip — 12 years ago(August 24, 2013 08:00 AM)

                                    You no longer want to live on this planet because of some guy's dumb comment? How emo of you.
                                    If you've heard of it, it's already too mainstream for me.

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                                      bladexz95 — 12 years ago(July 03, 2013 02:39 AM)

                                      What I want to know is how she got the rib cages open

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                                        Stoshie — 12 years ago(October 04, 2013 06:41 PM)

                                        Gee,parabolola. Many thanks for stating the obvious.
                                        I don't know what I would have done without you!

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                                          arthurgordonmarshall-856-226244 — 12 years ago(November 28, 2013 12:00 PM)

                                          It's very clear she is dead due to all of Parabolola's facts which he states in the first comment.
                                          The thing I found extremely shocking and depressing was how nice and Innocent Grace was in the film and at how one moment she is fine coloring in like any kid and the next moment she's dead, You don't get to see hardly any of the procedure of opening either of the girls up it just escalates in a way that I have never seen in any other film which left me breath taken with my hands on my face saying oh god no
                                          The fact that you see Grace with her eyes open at the very end tells you that she actually woke up from the chloroform and was awake moments before dying, I find that absolutely horrific and it hasn't been able to get out of my head for days which I'm assuming was the point of the ending of the film, to leave it's audience speechless.
                                          But overall it was an absolutely amazing film in my opinion and I'd give it a 9/10.

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