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    lukejbarnett2002 — 9 years ago(April 24, 2016 02:41 PM)

    yeah but I hated the ending. I hated it so much. I really, really hate when movies have endings that don't answer questions, don't make sense, and aren't good in an artistic way, or meaningful.
    the dumbest thing about this movie is why would a girl who stole cast from an old woman just give it back to her if she ended up feeling bad for stealing it from her? why would she instead of giving it back or part of it back become her friend?
    and then the part that really didn't make sense is after the old woman got upset after taking care of the girl's dog(which they also never explained, because what made the woman so upset she didnt' want to be friends with the girl anymore?)and she didn't want to be friends with the girl anymore the girl was desperate to remain friends with her and even bought a plane ticket for the old woman and did everything she could to get her to go with her. uh what? and she didn't feel bad about taking her money or spending it because if she did either one of those things then why didn't she show it at all? no once did she have a look of guilt over taking the woman's money. all of these things made me so irritated while watching this movie.

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      Giantjott — 9 years ago(January 17, 2017 09:35 PM)

      Good grief. I am truly shocked by the amount of confusion from this simple, straightforward story of an unlikely friendship. Personally, I neither needed nor wanted every single motive spelled out for me. It would have ruined the realism by overloading the dialogue with exposition. The characters actions don't always make sense, just like real people's actions in the real world. Jane found herself struggling with what to do. She may have not even understood some of her own actions while performing them. But honestly, most of the things you seem to be confused by seemed completely clear to me. After "Star-sitting," Sadie pulled the classic move of playing mean to get a loved one to leave you alone (see Harry and the Hendersons for another example). She didn't feel she was capable of maintaining a new friendship, and she felt embarrassed for having let the dog loose, hence her not explaining what happened to Jane. Then, Jane tried to get Sadie to come with her to Paris out of compassion and genuine affection for the woman. Guilt would most likely not have caused such a display. That was kind of the point of her character's narrative arch. She was guilty earlier onit's right there in the conversation with Melissa when she asks what she would do if she found the money, and in Jane's first efforts to befriend Sadie. Along the way, however, Jane developed genuine affection for Sadie.
      As for the ending, it's pretty straightforward. Sadie was hurt by Melissa's information, but then when she thought about it, she felt like she had made a real connection, despite what Melissa said. To test this, she wanted to show Jane something more personal about herself, i.e. her daughter's grave. This came as a surprise to Jane because, 1) Sadie had never mentioned what would have been a major event in her life (mothers aren't supposed to outlive daughters), and 2) because this puts into perspective Sadie's reluctance to invest herself in a friend who most likely reminded her of her own daughter. It's that simple. So why is everyone trying to make it more complicated?

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        cuechick — 12 years ago(July 20, 2013 08:13 PM)

        The Zoo closed in the 60's but that is not when he proposed to her it could have been any time before that.

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          ElectricKoolaidAcid — 12 years ago(July 21, 2013 11:35 AM)

          I think this film copied a little bit of the premise of "Welcome to the Rileys" (and a far more superior film than this, too). It just was played backwards. Instead it's the prostitute "helping out" the older richer person, with the older richer person having their own ulterior motives for accepting/giving the help- that being they lost a daughter of the same age and now see numerous resemblances with their young stripper/prostitute friend.
          Just sayin'

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            cholmes234 — 12 years ago(July 23, 2013 03:22 PM)

            Sadie definitely mentions her husband leaving her plenty of money, from his gambling winnings, so that's not it. She never mentions anyone else from her life, except for her late husband. I believe Sadie didn't intentionally bring Jane to the grave site to show her daughter's grave; I think the significance is that Sadie had taken such a liking to Jane, it was almost like having a daughter again, and once Jane saw the daughter's grave, she realized that. Keep in mind, Jane's roommate "tattled" on Jane, and Sadie seemingly did not care; they still went to Paris, after all. I can't recall the year of death on the daughter's grave, but it's also possible that she died at a very young age, and Jane couldn't have been older than 21-23, so that could apply as well.

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              shailosweetkittycat — 12 years ago(July 29, 2013 01:59 AM)

              Her husband didnt propse in the 60's the zoo CLOSED un the 60's.
              Earlier she asked her if she had kuds and she said "no."
              The tombstone clearly showed her husband was also a "loving father" and next to him was their buried daughter geeze try actually paying attention when watching

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                SMALLWHEELS101 — 12 years ago(March 07, 2014 05:38 PM)

                i think we get all that, but we want to know why. Was Sadie upset at her? Did she feel comfortable with her? did they still go to paris? That is what we dont understand

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                  Trigonometric — 10 years ago(July 14, 2015 05:12 PM)

                  I thought it was pretty obvious
                  Sadie wasn't upset, sending Jane to the grave was her way of saying she is the only thing in her life that means something. She didn't care that Jane didn't tell her about the money.
                  After Jane saw the graves she realised the severity of their relationship, then they almost definitely went to Paris.
                  What about the forests? NOPE!

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                    Illuminert — 12 years ago(August 10, 2013 07:01 PM)

                    The old lady did not care about the money Jane stole because she was spending most off it on her anyhow. And she did something for her that she was never able to do herself: she bought tickets to Paris. Her biggest dream.
                    In the scene where she his standing over her suitcase, unable to decide wheter or not to unpack for the trip she is thinking what i Wrote above: Jane was her friends, she helped her with her driving her around and being there for her.
                    In the last scene the old lady decides to show Jane she had a child once in the prosess of Opening up, Getting to know each other and also: making sure Jane wouldn't leave her.
                    Sary for the bad english, it is four o'clock in the morning in Norway and I am super sleepy.

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                      dh4645 — 12 years ago(December 20, 2013 05:25 PM)

                      i 100% agree. i just watched it and was confused at first, but thinking for 15 min or so about the ending.
                      sadie was going to unpack, but then realizedwho cares about the dishonesty/money, jane has been a great friend (surrogate daughteralthough we dont know that until the last scene) and gave the end of her life meaning again, instead of just being an old bingo playing lady that wont let anyone get close (after losing her 18 yr old daughter & husband), jane got her out of the house and bought her tix on her dream trip to paris.
                      you really get sadie not wanting to be close/lose anyone again by the scene where she thought she lost the dog and thought she couldn't handle loss again.
                      sending jane to the grave was sadie's way of letting her in 100%

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                        lukejbarnett2002 — 9 years ago(April 25, 2016 07:17 PM)

                        but all that still doesn't explain why jane wanted to be her friend so much? and also why she went out of her way to buy her tickets to Paris and would not give up in trying to get her to go with her to Paris. and also why did Jane still want to be friends with the old woman after the old woman said she couldn't be friends anymore with her after she almost lost her dog?

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                          KawaiiKiwi — 9 years ago(January 10, 2017 11:44 PM)

                          at first she probably just felt guilty for taking her money, then most likely realized she was attached to the old lady and wanted to keep her company

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                            lukejbarnett2002 — 9 years ago(April 25, 2016 07:14 PM)

                            if the old lady really wanted to go to Paris then why did she at first say a resounding no to Jane? I mean Jane had to really talk her into it and even after that she had to try to win at Bingo in order to get the old lady to go with her.

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                              Maggie71286 — 12 years ago(August 15, 2013 07:50 AM)

                              I think that, after Jane's friend outed her to Sadie, Sadie felt betrayedat first. I think she then realized that maybe she was enjoying Jane's company for her own "selfish" reasons (Maybe Jane reminded her of her daughter.) Everyone watched the film feeling bad for Sadie and judging Jane for keeping her money and hanging out with her out of guilt, but I think that this was Sadie's way of saying "I'm no different than you" and, more importantly, "I know about the money and I forgive you." I don't know, that's just how I took it.

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                                Jasonismoney — 12 years ago(August 23, 2013 02:32 AM)

                                Very surprised out of all the people on here, you're the only one that got it. I thought it was fairly heavy-handed people. Sadie's daughter passed when she wasn't all that far from Jane's age. I think, obviously, Jane reminded Sadie of her daughter - and sending Jane to the grave wasn't about telling Jane that she knew about the money, but giving Jane an opportunity to let go of the guilt - because she, Sadie, was also guilty.
                                Beautiful film. Seriously - marvelous. And a brilliant ending.

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                                  unsound-1 — 12 years ago(November 08, 2013 07:10 PM)

                                  Why was Sadie guilty?

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                                    wv-817-937915 — 12 years ago(January 11, 2014 06:03 AM)

                                    Maybe because she haved ten thousand from the lady? Is not this the main visible argument?

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                                      wv-817-937915 — 12 years ago(January 11, 2014 06:19 AM)

                                      100% accurated comment about the ending!

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                                        lukejbarnett2002 — 9 years ago(April 25, 2016 07:23 PM)

                                        how would Jane seeing those tombstones make her know that the old woman was guilty?

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                                          Bexcellent — 10 years ago(November 07, 2015 11:15 AM)

                                          I just watched this movie on Netflix and that was exactly how I read the ending as well.

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