significance of last tombstone scene?
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lapelpinproductions_remo — 12 years ago(August 26, 2013 10:49 AM)
This is my ten cents
Sadie's daughter died in 1969, which meant she died when she was 18, either from an accident or suicide.
Sadie's husband died in 1971, 2 years after their daughter's death, either from a heart attack from the stress of the daughter's death, or suicide. I think his death is directly related to the daughter's death.
Sadie said her husband died last year, so she's been in denial for the past 40 years. She's never come to terms with her daughter's death, so much so she doesn't even admit to her daughter being alive.
I don't think there is more interpretation implied other than Sadie's life has a messy and sad past, and the introduction of Jane has pulled her out of her denial.
The relationship with Jane marks the first time in a long time she has started living life, which includes hopes & dreams (trip to Paris), sadness & stress (ordeal of Starlet getting lost), adventure (the trip to the porn office), and happiness (daughter-relationship with Jane). -
mmarcopolo — 12 years ago(October 21, 2013 10:18 PM)
This is my ten cents
Sadie's daughter died in 1969, which meant she died when she was 18, either from an accident or suicide.
Sadie's husband died in 1971, 2 years after their daughter's death, either from a heart attack from the stress of the daughter's death, or suicide. I think his death is directly related to the daughter's death.
Sadie said her husband died last year, so she's been in denial for the past 40 years. She's never come to terms with her daughter's death, so much so she doesn't even admit to her daughter being alive.
I don't think there is more interpretation implied other than Sadie's life has a messy and sad past, and the introduction of Jane has pulled her out of her denial.
The relationship with Jane marks the first time in a long time she has started living life, which includes hopes & dreams (trip to Paris), sadness & stress (ordeal of Starlet getting lost), adventure (the trip to the porn office), and happiness (daughter-relationship with Jane).
Your interpretation seems to make the most sense. I totally missed that Sadie's husband had died much earlier than she mentioned. So Jane actually brought her out of her fantasy world and back to reality. Still seemed like a strange way to end the film considering everything that went on. -
unsound-1 — 12 years ago(November 08, 2013 07:13 PM)
Sadie said her husband died last year, so she's been in denial for the past 40 years.
She didn't say her husband died last year, she said that it had been a year since she visited her husband's grave, because she had turned in her license and no longer drove. -
utazdevl — 12 years ago(September 06, 2013 01:38 PM)
WOW, all these people digging so deep into the last scene, and seemingly missing the point, at least in my opinion.
To me, Sadie sending Jane to the grave was her way of telling Jane "I had a daughter and she was about your age when she died". I don't think it was some profound declaration of poverty or blood relationship and such. Just a way of telling someone Sadie had come to like something about herself she hadn't previously said. Had nothing to do with the money or Melissa's visit.
Sometimes, as cigar is just a cigar. -
verahta — 12 years ago(October 25, 2013 03:28 AM)
Yes, I can't believe how many people were "whooshed" by this film. Good grief people.
I like it, it was a good movie.
And seemingly everyone has completely missed the fact that Jane was essentially lacking a mother. At the beginning of the movie Jane begs her mom to come to California and visit her, but she will not come visit her daughter and Jane is upset. She later mentions her mother pops 10 pills a day, and is thus probably a drug addict and an absent parent.
The grave scene is clearly showing that each of them are missing family in their lives. The old lady used to have a daughter and Jane has an absent mother. -
KawaiiKiwi — 9 years ago(January 10, 2017 11:48 PM)
I think it just made her realize that she meant a lot more than she thought to the old lady, as if the woman she telling her 'you're really important to me, I hope you really are my friend and not faking' (relating to what melissa told her earlier)
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utazdevl — 12 years ago(September 06, 2013 01:43 PM)
WOW, all these people digging so deep into the last scene, and seemingly missing the point, at least in my opinion.
To me, Sadie sending Jane to the grave was her way of telling Jane "I had a daughter and she was about your age when she died". I don't think it was some profound declaration of poverty or blood relationship and such. Just a way of telling someone Sadie had come to like something about herself she hadn't previously said. Had nothing to do with the money or Melissa's visit.
Sometimes, as cigar is just a cigar. -
ecostarr — 12 years ago(January 19, 2014 03:34 PM)
Her husband didn't propose to her at the zoo in the 60's According to Jane, the zoo closed in 1965. He proposed to her much sooner than that. Sadi was just thrown because she hadn't been back to the zoo since before it closed, and hadn't realized that a place that meant so much to her was basically gone.
My take on the significance of the cemetery scene is similar to others. What Melissa didn't realize is that though guilt propelled Jane to approach Sadi after she found the money, it wasn't what motivated her to keep come back, especially after she maced her, and again when she pushed her away after the dog incident.
I felt Sadi was a proxy for her mom, since they appear to have a rocky relationshipshe invited her mom to come to CA, and she declined even though Jane was paying for it. I'm guessing her mom knows about the porn and was rejecting her for it. I think Sadi wanted her go to the tombstone, so she would know that she had daughter she hadn't told Jane about. It was her way of letting Jane know that she reminded her of her daughter, so both women were getting something out of the relationship, not just Jane. -
irod — 12 years ago(February 02, 2014 12:04 AM)
It's pretty obvious that the significance of the last scene is that Sadie "forgives" Jane for staying with her because of the money (guilt/selfishness), as she had her own selfish reasons for staying with Jane as well (taking the place of her lost daughter, who was the same age).
Bottom line, the reasons don't matter, what's important is that they each gained a friend.