A movie dumb ppl will like.
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john_locke-48 — 9 years ago(January 25, 2017 11:12 AM)
From the linguistic point of view, this movie is a masterpiece. Also, the idea that the language determines the way we think and that consciousness can overlap time is fantastic.
I love how this movie addresses the difficulties in communication between the two species, this is very realistic, if the aliens would visit Earth one day without hostile intentions, communication would be a major issue for us to overcome. Now, talking about realistic movies, this is one of the few where aliens are not humanoids or reptile-like creatures.
This is a movie for intelligent and thoughtful people, meaning that any low IQ person who watches it will think that it's a bad movie. -
elad_pat — 9 years ago(January 25, 2017 12:03 PM)
Totally agree, john_locke-48!!
I watched the movie twice, and learned more the second time around. Now I've got a copy of the book and am reading the story the movie is based on. Then I will watch it again. Like Louise, knowing what is coming can really contribute to understanding what's happening.
It's really NOT a movie for dummies! You need to get in there and work to understand what's happening. Not the type of fare that Hollywood is noted for producing. -
mickon-65353 — 9 years ago(January 26, 2017 10:03 PM)
Its flawed but not by its ambition. The book is a SOB to make into a film. I think it did ok getting its concepts across. Most posters I read though are scratching the surface and claiming its for dumb people, but thats part of the joureny right, not everyone gets to finish it the same. I think the contemplation on language is very relevant now. Gotta say though the join the dots feminism and racial stereotyping contrasted markedly with the issues of time communication and 'human' experience. Watch it again people - its worth it.
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maca-diaz28 — 9 years ago(January 25, 2017 09:12 PM)
Excelent comment
porphyrogen71
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Some people talk, as if the movie has invented a new concept. We allready know time lines theory exists and that the learning new languages open minds.
The problem is how the movie portrait this subjects. -
Rat_27 — 9 years ago(January 26, 2017 03:23 AM)
Also, the idea that the language determines the way we think
This is not even almost correct. It is also clear indication that you are fluent in only one language.
This is a movie for intelligent and thoughtful people, meaning that any low IQ person who watches it will think that it's a bad movie.
Haha. Nice try, Grasshopper. I thought it was horrible, and I'd bet dollars to donuts that my IQ well eclipses yours. With plenty of room to spare.
This movie sucked, and the emperor isn't wearing any clothes. -
floppylobster-86-283328 — 9 years ago(January 26, 2017 01:53 PM)
From the linguistic point of view, this movie is a masterpiece.
It seemed to draw its ideas and concepts from my Linguistics 100 class.
I would have thought they would have had smarter linguists involved in such a situation as alien contact. For 'experts', some of the conclusions there were reaching, like learning and teaching using sound and symbols seemed to take them an extraordinarily long time for them to reach. Why would they think interpreting sound was the best and only way to communicate when even our space probes are full of sights, sounds and music to try and convey all the ways we express ourselves? For that reason I would not call it a masterpiece from a linguistic point of view. It just gave people who never think about linguistics in their daily lives some interesting talking points.
Also, the idea that the language determines the way we think and that consciousness can overlap time is fantastic.
This is an idea that anyone who has learned a language completely different to their own (e.g. English to Japanese) has at some point during the process. So once again, it's not a revolutionary idea, just interesting to those who have never considered it before.
Now, talking about realistic movies, this is one of the few where aliens are not humanoids or reptile-like creatures.
They are squid. Complete with the ability to shoot ink. Squid and Octopus are considered very intelligent, so once again, it's not a huge leap.
You may be right that people with a low IQ may think it's bad. But that doesn't mean those with a higher IQ don't think it's bad too. It seems to sit in a safe middle ground for people who like to consider philosophical ideas and weighty concepts but don't have lot of original or independent thoughts themselves. -
tomholland2016 — 9 years ago(January 29, 2017 02:39 AM)
But where's the suspense? Most of the haters just didn't feel it.
And the bomb scene, give me a break. How could they even put a bomb inside of it when you have to carry that thing (quite big and it looks heavy) without getting caught? I thought the security system supposed to be tight considering their safety were very well managed except for the two main characters.
Even La La Land has a bigger suspense than this. -
RockstarInvestments — 9 years ago(January 26, 2017 05:52 AM)
As I said, it's for dumb ppl. It's a half baked concept that's only based on 'muh feels!'.
As a movie/film it's a major mess. Taking some random 'interesting' therum and wrapping a terrible story around it does not make it a 'smart' or successful film. -
kenny-164 — 9 years ago(January 26, 2017 01:04 PM)
Rockhead,
Your trolling here about a film you have made clear you hate serves no purpose. People who post over and over criticizing people who enjoy a film are the worst sort of posters on IMDb. You add nothing. Perhaps you enjoy trying to make other people unhappy.
I suggest you find something better to do with your time, like talk about a movie you like. Assuming there are any. -
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skat1140 — 9 years ago(January 26, 2017 06:35 AM)
A movie dumb ppl will like.
Quite the opposite. There are no car chases, no explosions (well, one), no gunfire (well, a little, off-screen). It's just mostly dialog. And the protagonist is a woman.
It's a movie most dumb people (well, dumb males) will dislike.
Case in point: you.