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    pd78w — 10 years ago(March 27, 2016 08:44 AM)

    In order to commit perjury, a person has to be under oath. I don't believe that was the case at any time for Nash's character.
    However, since the police may have thought that Nash's admission to holding forged documents was reasonable grounds for suspecting he had committed a crime, it's sensible to arrest the guy and then let the courts or a judge figure it out.

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      Hiphophippie23 — 10 years ago(March 31, 2016 10:38 AM)

      Difficult to grasp? First of all, as the other person stated, I believe the crime was forgery not perjury. Secondly, I'm well aware the police arrest suspects and not only people they know for a fact are guilty. However, they sure as heck don't go around making arrests solely on hearsay. If they threw someone in a squad car every time they overheard something suspicious then every person singing rap lyrics or rehearsing for a violent movie/play would be behind bars. You have no clue what you are talking about. The end of this movie was rushed and the ending made very little sense.

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        sean-van-der-smythe — 9 years ago(July 16, 2016 03:24 AM)

        Dude, you're grasping at straws; the guy clearly wasn't singing or quoting a movie; he said quite clearly what he had done. You make it sound less credible by calling it "hearsay" but it wasn't someone else who had said it (even if they had, it could be grounds for arrest); he himself admitted to it. I don't think he was put in handcuffs; he was just put into the back of a car while they went and spoke to that big cheese.

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          Hiphophippie23 — 9 years ago(August 16, 2016 12:01 PM)

          Grasping at straws?? There are a ton of people on these message boards for this film who agree that the end of this movie was rushed and made little sense. So he wasn't put in handcuffs, fair enough. If you really think that the cops responding to what was essentially a trespassing and domestic disturbance situation with a man with a gun, would actually believe, be more concerned with, and follow up on a "forged documents" off the cuff comment then you have no idea what you are talking about. They would be all over the man with the gun.

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            slidell333 — 9 years ago(August 16, 2016 08:49 PM)

            Don't fret over him, man. He's not even from this country. He said my "moral compass" because I said don't think that every person is entitled to a home in this country wether they pay on it or notso..we should just let these people stay because "I grew up there!" even though they took out $85k against their homes for tools. And I'm a very liberal person..

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              aupple — 10 years ago(February 20, 2016 12:23 AM)

              It was a standoff situation with an armed man. It can be argued that you can say anything, you can even lie if it helped de-escalate the situation so all anyone had to argue is that Nash just told the armed man what he wanted to hear - it doesn't mean it's the truth.
              As for taking nash and carver in for questioning, that part didn't make sense unless there was already a case being built against Carver.

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                wrightinchicago — 10 years ago(February 20, 2016 06:38 PM)

                The guys in suits who took Nash were FBI or detectives IMO. They would want to talk to him about fraud.

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                  lanceus — 10 years ago(February 20, 2016 08:58 PM)

                  I also think at the very least, the detectives on the scene (whether at the time or shortly thereafter) would want him brought in since he just admitted he committed fraud upon the court. Not a stretch at all. As for the handcuffs, I don't know what normally goes on in Orlando. Not sure if the scene of Nash getting into the police vehicle was minutes after the standoff, or after detectives has questioned him for a bit.
                  I do agree that Nash wouldn't have much of a chance against Carver's word later on, unless he had some form of proof about how they ripped of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Or maybe the government didn't need a lot of proof in order to start ripping Carver's life apart.

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                    daredevil1-1 — 10 years ago(February 27, 2016 06:41 AM)

                    Nothing was more unsettling than the last shot with the creepy Arab child staring eerily at Garfield not really knowing what his cue was supposed to be lol.

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                      moviefool09 — 10 years ago(March 02, 2016 04:02 PM)

                      Films, unfortunately, have to "wrap things up" in a quick action, which often means operating in a way that is not 100% realistic. It's happened on many films before.
                      I can forgive the filmmaker for that ending because I felt like the emotion was earned and the point was made.
                      Great film.
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                        Howlin Wolf — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 12:58 PM)

                        Agreed. It's forgiveable because we the audience know the truth, and it's 'fair' - even if fairness doesn't exist in the real world.
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                          Hiphophippie23 — 10 years ago(March 09, 2016 10:56 AM)

                          HA! I hadn't noticed that, thanks. Lol

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                            activista — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 12:32 AM)

                            @daredevil
                            "Creepy Arab child"? There was nothing "creepy" about that childwhat a silly thing to say.

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                              Satantangoandcash — 10 years ago(March 12, 2016 03:22 AM)

                              I don't think they arrested Nash, they were just taking him in for questioning. I was left wondering if the men in plain clothes were already aware of the forgery and were at the scene to pick up Carver or if they were there because it's routine to send non-uniformed officers or Federal agents or whatever they were to that sort of armed stand-off situation.

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                                robatmuskoka-89-696422 — 10 years ago(March 30, 2016 05:41 PM)

                                Exactly !

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                                  denise1234 — 9 years ago(April 10, 2016 01:19 AM)

                                  They handcuff and put folks in cop cars for a lot less these days
                                  "A distant ship, smoke on the horizon. You are only coming through in waves."

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                                    Hiphophippie23 — 9 years ago(April 19, 2016 11:55 AM)

                                    That's very true. However, it's almost never well dressed middle aged white males in suburban neighborhoods.

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                                      bdickus — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 05:15 AM)

                                      Agree, it's a formality.. Also separating Nash from the situation. An armed man he admitted to 'delivering' the forged documents not forging them himself. It was Freeman and his boys. So Nash would be asked to give a formal statement and eventually testify. Also, to separate him from Carver, who seemed to be having a casual chat with the Detectives at the end as he had a good reputation with the police.
                                      Why btw, two separate law enforcements show up? The Sheriffs dept doesn't have enough man power in Orlando?

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                                        Steamboy — 9 years ago(May 11, 2016 03:30 PM)

                                        He wasn't arrested by the "average cop", they looked like feds. The question is, what were they doing at the scene? Perhaps they were already investigating Carver? Some explanations would have been welcome.


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                                          typo_3000 — 9 years ago(May 28, 2016 04:08 AM)

                                          yes that was what i found odd. was unsure where they came from

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