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How I would solve two problems with one plot point.

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    mh-newressistance — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 07:51 AM)

    awwwww Joby
    I know that you just clowning around, but can you factually prove that I'm him?
    You know, when you put half-naked gay men as your avatar, and you sent kissing emojis to random guys, people might start question your sexuality. (Just a thought, you know.)

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      Kyos — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 01:16 PM)

      I can't disagree that the general notion that not making Batman dumb would improve the movie.

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        Fluffis — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 01:28 PM)

        Yeah. Superman was given the ability to fly from Ellesmere Island to Metropolis in under 10 seconds (not to mention knowing that Lois was in trouble, in Metropolis), and Batman was given the ability to be a brilliant detective.
        But when it really mattered, both those abilities were removed. Because of the fight. The fact that those abilities were removed, was what set up the fight. Batman couldn't put two and two together and realize that they were being set up, even though
        every single thing
        pointed towards it - and Superman couldn't rescue his mom himself, even though past feats tell us that it would be a simple matter.
        Quidquid Latinae dictum sit, altum viditur.

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          CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 01:59 PM)

          I should've specified that this plot point means that the entire story of the film would be re-arranged so that the rest of the plot can connect with it. Batman would come out as psycho in the subjective way, but not in the actuality. He'd seem as such only to audiences and Superman. It would be only pretense, as oppose to him being actually murderous psycho.
          It would be an interesting direction to take the story in that case but we are looking at a major rewrite here, but it could possibly work with extensive rewriting perhaps even doing something along the lines of 'The Game' obviously you would have to do it in a way where Lex henchmen were not in it and while originally having us believe that Batman killed people we would need to have a flashbacks to show us how he cleverly didn't. Still that sounds like wishful thinking when we look at how flawed and limited the writing in BvS actually was and a bit like saying if only they could have written an intelligent and clever script instead of what we got, quite frankly I think it is beyond them.
          Yeah. Superman was given the ability to fly from Ellesmere Island to Metropolis in under 10 seconds (not to mention knowing that Lois was in trouble, in Metropolis), and Batman was given the ability to be a brilliant detective.
          You are suggesting consistent powers and abilities the heroes are meant to have? How would that ever work in conjunction with such lazy plot writing?
          To make a great film you need three things - the script, the script and the script -Alfred Hitchcock

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            Fluffis — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 02:12 PM)

            You are suggesting consistent powers and abilities the heroes are meant to have? How would that ever work in conjunction with such lazy plot writing?
            I know, right?
            Quidquid Latinae dictum sit, altum viditur.

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              Blue Wave — 3 years ago(May 29, 2022 06:32 AM)

              With minimal tweeks that would have been a good change. Batman should want to end Superman if Bats thought Dupes turned out Bat. That would suit Batmans' manipulative streak just fine. However I can see him seeing a serious moral cause. Batman is serious like that. Superman being able to beat Batman would be a believable storyline as well.

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