Baz Luhrmann?! you mean the guy who can't direct a watchable movie?
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Elvis
lukejbarnett — 3 years ago(August 22, 2022 02:19 AM)
he's made 2 musicals that are unwatchable and maybe 3 unwatchable movies with australia?
romeo +?? whats with the plus sign anyway juliet is unwatchably bc it so annoying with the music people suddenly singing can never understand why people can enjoy and not be painfully annoyed by musicals? and moulan rouge is horribly unwatchable, intolerably annoying.
so no this movie will suck big time
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Captain_Cavegirl — 3 years ago(August 26, 2022 06:53 AM)
R and J was probably titled with a plus between the names because that movie was a modern adaptation.
How could you hate on Moulin Rouge! by the way? Ewan McGregor and Nicole Kidman have decent singing voices!
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lukejbarnett — 2 years ago(February 17, 2024 09:39 AM)
well at least he told the truth about elvis being a sexist, misogynist, sexual predator whom preyed on the ****ing 14 year old priscilla when he was 21. i mean even i whom can be lured by hot teen girls know i can never get with a 14 year old now as and adult and haven't been able to since i was 20.
elvis was just as bad a jerry lee lewis only difference is he never got caught bc he didn't marry priscilla when she was 13 or 14 like jerry did with that 14 year old cousin so elvis got off. sadly they only uncovered this after his death unfortunately.
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vicky_lc2001 — 2 years ago(February 20, 2024 04:58 AM)
- Many southerners married young, both girls and boys but yes, girls were younger. It was a different time.
- JLL married a 13yr old, Elvis only had sex with Priscilla when they married when she was almost 22. I'd hardly think they were the same.
- Priscilla and her family went after and pursued Elvis relelentlessly. Writing him for over a year when he didn't even write back. He saw her briefly when she was 14 but not again until she was 17.
- Back then 20 was considered a minor still, they changed US laws in the late 70s.
- The difference is you are from a different time. My great grandfather was 25 when he married my great grandmother who was 15. In Germany back then, the age of consent was 14, in many Asian countries it is 13. Times change and you need to view history from their time period, not yours.
- Funny how you go after a man who didn't have sex with his wife until she was 22 yet other celebrities who had sex with teenagers you give a pass. Your bias is showing.
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lukejbarnett — 2 years ago(February 21, 2024 05:32 AM)
do you honestly think elvis waited to have sex with her until she was 21? that is incredibly naive for you to think that when he was the king of rock and roll and was the biggest star of the '60s before he met her. i mean waiting 7 years is ridiculous to think he did.
with all the girls throwing themselves at him getting naked and basically raping him just to have sex with him there is no way after he got used to this from girls that he waited 7 years to have sex with her. i mean there would be no reason to also bc he didn't have to do this bc he would have gotten away with this if he did this bc he was elvis.
he wouldn't just be like "oh i had sex with 5 girls last week and 20 this month but oh
that wouldn't be prudent and or morally right to have sex with a 16 or 18 year old girl just bc she wanted to wait for marriage." that would just never happen.
also priscilla was upset about the way he was portrayed in this movie which is probably bc they showed him taking advantage of her by having sex with her when she was under 18.
your point is absolutely wrong. it wasn't just a different time in the freaking 1950s about girls and boys marrying young in their teens. that happened in the 1700s not the 1950s! and even if that did happen a lot in america then that wouldn't make jerry lee lewis okay to marry his 2nd cousin when she was only 13 at the time when he was 21.
it's good they had 21 as the age of consent back then in america. it should have remained that bc kids nowadays are not mature enough to like drive cars at 16. you just are anti morality bc you think it's perfectly fine for jll to marry his 2nd cousin at 13 when he is 21.
wrong. times change but people never do. so 14 is 14 no matter what time you live in. people's biology has never changed and people's emotional maturity has never changed so the laws should have stayed the same on having sex at what age in america.
what are you talking about i'm okay with celebs having sex with teenagers?
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vicky_lc2001 — 2 years ago(February 22, 2024 11:16 AM)
- It might be ridiculous for you, the notion of waiting but Elvis came from a different generation. He grew up believing women/girls and men/boys were either good or bad, if they acted like ladies and gentlemen. And a gentleman who deflowers or destroys a good girl's reputation, is not a gentleman and is despicable. He said this in many interviews in the 50s. Also I have read all of his gfs books and he did not have sex with any of them prior to marrying Priscilla. He cheated on them with bad girls or girls of the night types, or bordello girls. By the 70s, with changing culture and the disillusion of his marriage, he went with the times but still preferred good girl gfs.
- Elvis would not have gotten away from Elvis and his mother's eye/teachings. He promised his mother he would marry a virgin, a good girl, and a non hollywood type. Even AM was a good girl despite her portrayal in many MJ bios as a wild sex girl.
- And no, Elvis did not have sex with 5 girls last week and 20 this morning. Even he said that, people's assumption of his sex life is highly exaggerated. 2nd, a date just means a date, it does not equate to sex as many westerners now practice.
- Actually, it was the girls who often wanted to have sex with him even prior to marriage, this happened with Priscilla, June, even Anita, but all of them said, Elvis always said no, that he wanted to wait until marriage. Even when both Elvis and Priscilla were drunk one time, and were close, it was Elvis that pushed away from her saying, "No. Not this way."
- You can make up any tale you want, but all the ones who were there, meaning his gfs at the time, all stated that Elvis was a gentleman and was the one who always pulled away because he thought it was wrong to devirginize girls outside of marriage.
- The film in no way portrayed Elvis having sex with Priscilla in the film under 18. They showed them kissing, then the next scene, they were married. This is done for time constraints fyi.
- It does not matter if you're under the delusion southerners/country folks and others didn't marry young in the 50s. It happened. It's a fact. Vernon, Elvis' father married his mom at 17. Billy, Elvis' cousin, married a 15yr old bride. Priscilla's mom married at 15 to her 25yr old pilot bf. In fact, here's Dolly Parton in a 1970s interview stating many girls married early as young as 12:
- It doesn't matter what judgement you have on a swath of people in the past through your 21st century zoomer privileged lens, but people married early and died early. You need to study and read history and realize how difficult life was, because you are so detached to how things were, applying your wasp woke-ism on them.
- Anti-morality lol. I bet you have done more immoral things that I can even imagine pal.
And people back then were mature in terms of the reality of hard work, hard life and common sense but more innocent than current westerners in terms of sex or promiscuity. Porn was not common place, it became common place with the internet. Again my great grandmother married at 15 to my great grandfather, and this wasnt the 18th century. Elvis himself lost his virginity at 19, when he started touring. But I bet many westerners today, are more promiscuous than he was and at a much younger age with no attachments whatsoever. Funny you think you are more moral than these people, but I bet you have more experience with immorality than most of them.
No 14 in the west today is not 14 in the west before. The concept of teenagers even, is a recent invention. Hence why many cultures have 13 or around that age as the benchmark for adulthood. You have American teachers today teaching 5-10 year olds how to give BJ's to adults. Lol, I only learned of sex in sex-ed class when I was 14. So no, your sexuality today and people back then, are very different. You guys are very sexually mature at a very young age, when people then and in other countries are very innocent still, despite marrying early. - You rant on the one person who did not have sex with teenagers yet don't care for those who actually do. There's a name for people like that actually.
PS. This is my last reply to you. You turned a thread on baz luhrmann to a post on elvis devirginizing Priscilla. Troll post meant to lure people.
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lukejbarnett — 2 years ago(February 24, 2024 07:21 AM)
Fuck You.
you just made a contradiction. you said he grew up with the morality that a gentleman should never dirty a good girl's image but you also said he had cheating affairs with ladies of the night, girls in bordellos and bad girls when he was in relationships with girls later in life. so that is even worse than just deflowering a girl or making their image bad.
so if he is okay with just deflowering a good girl then who is to say he wouldn't be at having sex with priscilla before marriage? that is such a small thing compared to cheating on a girlfriend with another girl. you have to think that right?
if elvis was so morally sound and christian then why did he cheat on priscilla in the '70s? why didn't he just divorce her then have relationships? and why couldn't he make it just 10 years being married to a woman? he married her in '67 and they weren't together before he died in '77.
you just said he cheated on a girl with bordello girls, ladies of the night and bad girls and that in the '70s he went with the times of promiscuous sex. so what about all this couldn't make sense to you that he would have sex with a bunch of groupie girls in the '60s and '70s?
it doesn't matter if it happened a lot in the '50s the fact remains that it is wrong. a girl of 14, 15, 16, or 17 is not old enough to get married. this is why jerry lee lewis got in trouble for doing this when the girl was only 13. it is obscene how he took advantage of a poor little 13 year old girl same with marilyn monroe who only married at 14 bc she was so poor. how would you feel if your 13 or 14 year old daughter married a guy 21 or older? you would be very mad and 100% against it right?
that is absurdly untrue and wrong bc we are talking about the freaking 1950s this is not the 1700s or 1800s this is not hundreds of years ago bc then in the 1950s there were different careers that girls never had access to. in the '50s girls were able to have careers so they weren't needing to get married in their teens.
**** you
that doesn't make sense bc if they were sexually immature then how on earth would that be true if they were getting married so much in their teen as you said? that would mean they had sexual experience from being married so that is not true and you contradicted yourself with that.
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