You know, the guys whom are potential love interest/rival, they all are:
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LRose83 — 9 years ago(February 11, 2017 02:43 PM)
I think you are looking at this the wrong way. How many female driven superhero/super-powered shows have you watched? You could say the same thing about Buffy, Charmed, and many others. They want to make the main character the strongest on the show. I mean Arrow is kind of the same way but in reverse with Oliver being the strongest character. That is just the way it works with TV.
I also disagree that the men on the show are pushovers/super sensitive. I think they are just being normal. Can you point out a specific scene or demonstrate that in some way? I am really curious by what you mean. Sure Winn may be a little "geeky" but then he is supposed to be. I think they actually have a pretty wide range on the show. And Brenden Fraser in Bedazzled. he was crying during that whole scene. I haven't even seen one of these guys do that on the showthough if they did for a scene it wouldn't bother me.
Additionally, the "macho" "real" man stereotype is just a social construct. It doesn't represent reality. People learn to be "macho" or not to be based on their experiences in life. It depends on what type of family you come from, where you grow up, and what influences you. My point with that is that not everyone's definition of a "real" man aligns with yours. Your definition isn't based on reality and is instead just something that comes from your own worldview. -
al666940 — 9 years ago(February 12, 2017 08:33 AM)
"How many female driven superhero/super-powered shows have you watched?"
Well, how about Xena, Wonder Woman (70's), Charmed, The Good Wife, Underworld (by now it's like a TV show really) and Pretty Little Liars to name a new?
"They want to make the main character the strongest on the show."
That doesn't require making the males clones of Alan Harper. The male leads in Charmed and Xena for instance were nothing like the ones in this show.
There's a big difference between deferring or taking a step back, and becoming a walking doormat wearing your feelings on your sleeve.
"I think they are just being normal. "
Maybe a "new" normal.
"Can you point out a specific scene or demonstrate that in some way?"
Sure:- Wynn in ALL of season 1: I thought he was supposed to be the gay friend at first. Doesn't have the courage to go for what he wants (even though he CLEARLY has all the access and opportunity any suitor could ever hope for, so shyness ain't an excuse), before or after James showed up (in case you say he felt intimidated by him). And when he finally musters the courage to make a pass, it's so hopelessly late even a blind person would see it.
- James: everybody walks all over him (Kat, his girlfriend Lane, his girlfriend's dad, Kara's sister, etc). And he's beyond indecisive regarding what woman he wants (it depends on whom makes a move on him apparently). Total manipulable tool.
There.
"the "macho" "real" man stereotype is just a social construct."
I never used the term "macho".
Being a real man doesn't require one to be macho (hispanic term to refer to guys whom fight each other out of insecurity, treat women like crap and are unreliable in every aspect), you do know that, right?
You're setting up your own straw man to knock down.
There's a recent study out there that answers why women like jerks: long story short, they find their assertiveness and confidence appealing enough to overlook (to their peril) their jerky shortcomings. Those qualities will always override being "nice", especially when being nice comes along with being "dickless".
There's a reason many hot women go for rich powerful (even if ugly) dudes besides the obvious (money): that personality (assertive, confident, secure, imposing) really is attractive (obviously not all rich dudes have it, but the ones who do have double appeal), like it or not.