What people need to understand about the series
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trebor_trancheplanete — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 11:11 AM)
@mashkej:
While I did enjoy season 2 more than season 1 (I really didn't care about all the drug induced episodes, to be frank and wanted more of the 'hacking' plot), I have to agree with you that season 2 has a lot of filler and it feels like they are stretching it.
While I am one of those who will stick with the show until the end, I have a fear that a large chunk of the audience might just bail out because season 2 didn't arrive at a satisfactory conclusion, much like when Twin Peaks build up the murder and at the end of the season didn't resolve it. -
mashkej — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 05:25 PM)
@trebor_trancheplanete.
Thanks for your great and well thought comments. I love it when folks have a good discussion over stuff the like or are critical of but do so constructively.
Even thou im critical of several aspects of this season, i still admire the hell out of the show and those behind it. Im not ready to jump ship!
PS: Im with youi loved the hacking stuff in S1 -
murtaghchris — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 03:51 PM)
I think that the Seinfield discussions were a deliberate comment on the pointlessness of much of this season.
Also the talk between blond girl and the chinese lady were almost as terribly pretentious as the scene in Matrix 2 when Neo meets the architect.
Ultimately I don't know how anyone will keep track of all this stuff if it carries on like this for five seasons, it seems to be opening lots of uninteresting doors repeatedly. There was bits in this season where I couldn't really remember who did what from last season. In the last episode I thought he was in a flashback to when Tyrell disappeared and was going to solve if/how he killed him, then it wasn't, then Tyrell could be dead, then he's not dead, but maybe it'll all turn out that he is dead and Tyrell didn't shoot him, he shot himself, like er in that film? what was it when a guy shot himself in the face, and there was a pixies song in the background Is this series meant to invoke feelings of confusion and amnesia?
Then I'd like to think it will be a planned out tale like game of thrones, but I doubt they have that much of a plan. Then again at least this show has stayed true to what the first one was, just gone kind of let's do more of that, and let's put an upbeat but lonely FBI lady in the mix. It's like you liking a burger and chips so someone upgrades to a double burger and chips, you can't really complain. They even put a little pineapple chunk in there to be unexpected. You should be happy really. -
bitwalker — 9 years ago(September 25, 2016 12:26 AM)
Yes, except that the producers of the show don't know yet how many seasons they can sell. If it goes well, they will milk the cow as long as possible. When numbers are declining they will have limit amount of time to finish all story lines.
I hope they don't milk the cow. If it is material for 3 seasons, then they should do three seasons, enjoy the success and money, and do something new.
The comparison to Lost is often being made and I felt that's where Lost went wrong. When it became a success they started stretching it, added more sub-plots etc. and in the end didn't have enough time to bring it all to a good end. -
OmnicidalManiac — 9 years ago(September 25, 2016 08:17 AM)
Really miss Mr.Robot's theme, they hardly played it (only variants of it). I also missed the terminal, the daily hacking, everything that made the first season great. The second season wasgood. It's obvious Esmail went the way True Detective went, he directed every episode and it shows. Season 3 should have many directors and please bring back the Mr.Robot theme!
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NotASpeckOfCereal — 9 years ago(September 28, 2016 09:36 AM)
It's all about the long haul. This isn't like traditional shows where each
season
neatly wraps up
Season? Most shows have each EPISODE wrap up, then the next episode is an entirely new story same familiar reoccurring characters and perhaps general arc, but a new story with a episode by episode resolution nonetheless.
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Dreamers_x_Disease — 9 years ago(September 28, 2016 01:37 PM)
I'll admit that for a time I was one of those people shouting out about needing answers and resolutions and all that, but once you view the show as the whole it will be and not the segments we get now, it just makes everything so much better (in my opinion).
It's easy in the short run to be frustrated, the nature of the show calls for one to be frustrated, but thinking big picture helps put it all into context for why we're not getting everything neatly tied up by the end of the season. They're not just doing season arcs, they're doing entire series arcs. It's ambitious to be sure, and clearly not everyone will like it, but by the time it's over I bet a lot of people will look back at s2 and get it and like it a whole lot more and understand how it fits into the greater story at play here.
We've been conditioned to watch tv a certain way over the years and to know what to expect from its format, so to get something that turns that on its heador maybe not even that, but toys with its conventions like Mr. Robot does, it makes sense there will be a certain amount of backlash or confusion to that. I agree with the OPs sentiment though, that they're building for the long game and not worried, necessarily, about appeasing the short game. It's a bit risky, and again causes frustration, but that may just be what makes or breaks this show for some people, and that's just how it is.
The next time I find myself screaming about wanting a clear cut answer, I'll have to remind myself of all of this, and that I'd much rather have a cohesive, mind blowing series end than a mildly satisfying season finale that gives me what I'm anticipating. As the show has taught usit's all a matter of perspective